[pp.int.general] The Piratebay

Owen Kahn okahnus at gmail.com
Tue May 18 17:40:47 CEST 2010


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <
piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> What about braking the law intentionally in order to wake up the law
> regulators?! That is common practice in US I guess(?).
>
It's fairly common for individuals and certain types of organizations, but
as far as I know, political parties cannot without being disbanded.

>
> So, defending yourself on court could be a epic win if you just "show" the
> real pirate statistics? But I know, you will be buried by the giant lawyer
> hired by the big company. This situation always makes me to think about
> flaws
> in US legal systems... -> more money u have more justice u can buy...
>
> and not to flame but to conclude:
> In my humble opinion the idea is to mobilize people to make "digital but
> civil
> disobedience acts". At least I am doing it in Serbia. And I do it in every
> country I visit and call everyone to do the same!!!
>
> and yes, US democracy works selectively...
>
>
>
>
>
> Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:44:32 PM, you wrote:
>
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> Andrew> On 5/18/2010 10:31 AM, quemener.yves at free.fr wrote:
> >> The legalization of non-commercial filesharing is a common reclamation
> of so many pirate parties...
> >> Which of them do not endorse this ?
>
> Andrew> Ah, were it so simple.
>
> Andrew> In the Us, for instance, political parties can not condone or
> endorse
> Andrew> the breaking of laws. They can say "This law needs to be changed",
> but
> Andrew> thats all. It makes things a legal grey area, especially with TPB
> (who
> Andrew> under US law is (probably - IANAL!) a strong case for vicarious
> Andrew> infringement at least.
>
> Andrew> At least its not as confusing as say the pot issue, where it's
> legal for
> Andrew> medical purposes in some states, but flat out illegal federally.
>
> Andrew> US Election/campaign stuff is really messed up though. Thats why,
> 3.5
> Andrew> years after the party was formed, there's still paperwork in
> process.
>
> Andrew> The US is actually pretty undemocratic when it comes to
> democracy...
>
> Andrew> Andrew
>
>
> >>
> >> ----- "Jerry Weyer" <jerry.weyer at pp-international.net> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I just want to note, that not every Pirate Party might want to be
> >>> associated with The Pirate Bay! I don't have any concrete example, but
> >>> we should not suppose that every Pirate Party wants to see its logo on
> >>> the Pirate Bay.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> Jerry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <
> >>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think we should prioritize electoral races!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello Wesley,
> >>>
> >>> Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:13:50 PM, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wesley> On 05/18/2010 04:09 PM, Daniel Hertz wrote:
> >>>>> Why not all th parties? A map of some sort?
> >>>
> >>> Wesley> I think the ones with elections have a priority. But be my
> >>> guest to put
> >>> Wesley> a localized PP banner for every country. Fine with me :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wesley> Cheers,
> >>> Wesley> Wesley
> >>> Wesley> ____________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Wesley> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> Wesley> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> Wesley>
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Aleksandar Blagojevic
> >>> Leader of Serbian Pirate Party and board member of PPI
> >>> http://piratskapartija.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>>
> >>> Weyer Jerry
> >>> PPI Co-Chairman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
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> >> ____________________________________________________
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> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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> Andrew> ____________________________________________________
> Andrew> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> Andrew> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Andrew>
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>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Aleksandar Blagojevic
> Leader of Serbian Pirate Party and board member of PPI
> http://piratskapartija.com
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
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