[pp.int.general] PPi ask Anonymous to stop Payback

Choms choms at botmania.net
Sat Nov 20 17:50:29 CET 2010


Well, I really don't want to reply... I'm waiting the response of some people... but I really don't like the response of Andrew Norton...

I'll make a real reply later... but Rodrigo's reply is VERY related...

El 20/11/2010, a las 17:45, Rodrigo Pereira escribió:

> These happened because "stupid script kidies" are unused work force. Instead of "pulling on the ear", what about organize these people to a more productive direct actions? I'm not talking to create an ass-in-the-chair project like "faces against acta", but perhaps, organize a protest against COICA in your country. Congregate forces and groups and raise public attention. These "stupid script kidies" is fighting for attention for the questions of copyright. Disconnect, and go to the streets!   
> 
> 2010/11/20 Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
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> On 11/20/2010 10:47 AM, Choms wrote:
> > I think our friends missed send it to the list, so I'll send it ^^
> >
> > http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-parties-use-influence-to-halt-operation-payback-101120/
> 
> Was nothing to do with PPI (isn't their main job to just run half as
> many conventions a year, as before it was 'formed' anyway?). It was a
> USPP-led initiative. I asked many other party leaders for their
> involvement, some were afraid to go against anon, others actively
> supported O:P and others felt that the little kids involved would just
> go "HA MoralFags".
> 
> Meanwhile, it's temper-tantrum actions like O:P, taking down websites
> temporarally (which is considered a felony in the US, and the FBI is
> investigating) which helped the internet-censoring COICA out of
> committee the other day. Ultimately, O:P has achieved NOTHING (except
> for a very lucky break with ACS:law early on, and which only sped up
> it's downfall, rather than anything more). "Oh no, our site's down for 6
> hours, oh dear - look they've stopped it's back up now"
> 
> It's just giving people an excuse to pass more laws. It feeds the
> knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant, while giving no long-term results.
> Plus, we as parties are supposed to be ABOVE it. We're not stupid little
> script kiddies, and nor should we let the ignorant little fscks destroy
> any work we can do with their stupidity.
> 
> Thanks why we wrote the letter.
> 
> Andrew Norton
> USPP, Legal Office.
> 
> >
> > Greetings.
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> 
> - --
> Andrew Norton
> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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