[pp.int.general] PETITION against blocking!

[Gregory Engels]

On 18.10.2010, at 18:28, Radosław Nadstawny wrote:

> Hi there.
>
>
> There's one thing I don't understand - how exactly do you *delete* a
> website from the Internet? Let's say, somewhere in the net, there is a
> website which is illegal in your country, but what if its servers are
> located in a different country, where the site is legal? How do you
> "delete" it then?

By asking someone who can. There are studies that have showed,
that a known bank phishing site stays accessible on the internet
for approximately 3 hours after its discoveries. There are basically
not many countries out there where a bank-phishing site or a
child-abuse site is legal. So, it helps to ask the provider of the site
to take it down, most often they have no idea what their clients are
hosting (or the sites are even cracked and hosted without knowledge
of the server provider)

AK Zensur in germany did an experiment  in Mai 2009 by requesting
several provider of sites that were found on diverse european
"blocking lists" - with the effect that 12 hours later 60 child- 
pornography
sites were deleted. And AK-Zensur is just a small NGO, and not at all
"official". The effect, if the official police authority would request  
the
take down of the sites would be noticeable greater.


> As far as I undestand, the aim of this petition is to prevent
> censorship in the form of blocking websites, but the given
> argumentation seems to be flawed...


The petition is aiming to prevent a (technically useless)
censorship mechanism for the internet that could be used
for anything, after it is put in place. Deletion of really
nasty pages of child-abuse do not install a general
mechanism for censoring everything you like (or your
lobby would like you to like).

Gregory



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