[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 44, Issue 32

[Gabriel Serrano]

  Am 18.10.2010 22:22, schrieb 
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>     1. Re: File Sharing in Space (Erik L?nroth)
>     2. Re: File Sharing in Space (Stefan Sakowitz)
>     3. Re: File Sharing in Space (Andrew Norton)
>     4. Re: File Sharing in Space (Rodrigo dA)
>     5. Re: File Sharing in Space (Andrew Norton)
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> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:20:54 +0200
> From: Erik L?nroth<erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
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>> Exactly why I was asking about height. A balloon would last no more than
>> 2-3 days at best, before it's buoyancy was compromised, and the pressure
>> difference means it'd be expensive to make one that went high enough.
> I'm currently in a discussion with a chemist that has a way of
> preparing baloons that would prolong the flight-time by up to 25
> times. I think that exploring every aspect of the "baloon-track" is
> good, since the problems of powering a thingy into orbit is far more
> complicated. It is also alot more expensive and difficult to test.
> Lets learn how to crawl, before you learn how to walk.
>
> Sending a site into orbit is offcourse alot more StarWars - but I have
> the feeling that it will fail because its a too large problem to start
> with.
>
> However - learning from this project will open doors...
>
> Come up with a solution for the baloon and we are in a different
> situation. I'll post the discussion with the chemist later if it leads
> somewhere.
>
> /Erik
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>> Thus, a powered ascent to orbit is the only way (which makes
>> geostationary feasible). A LEO is about the best we can hope for (and we
>> need to do it from one of a few special ranges, because of airspace
>> regulations). We're looking at at least 400km up though for a decent orbit.
>>
>> My quick estimates are that it will cost at least $1M though. Perhaps
>> one of the cheapest solutions at present, might be a registered light
>> manned dirigible, might be able to get a day's airtime from it, and as
>> long as the person aboard is a pilot, it'll work under most laws. It's
>> certainly the first step for proof-of-concept.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:07:59 +0200
> From: "Stefan Sakowitz"<Multireal at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
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> .....and, as I see it, the aerospace above countries
> is far more controlled and claimed by nations as their
> landscape or seashore borders are.
>
>> Ooops...<  said the Air Force Commodore......
> Stefan
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>> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:49:34 +0200
>> Von: Christian Hufgard<pp at christian-hufgard.de>
>> An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk<pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
>> Am 18.10.2010 19:34, schrieb Erik L?nroth:
>>> Seems like a response from the community with some substance to it! I
>>> like the idea of "Practical Politics" instead of just "Political
>>> Politics". Not to say one goes without the other, but in the end your
>>> either do or you don't.
>> Please keep in mind, that it can be pretty dangerous to launch objects
>> into the air - the many rules according that topic have not at all been
>> invented to annoy people.
>>
>> There are a lot of planes out there...
>>
>> Christian
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But did anyone do a Google search for Satellite Price? I found someone 
who puts your staff in orbit (low) on a Neptune 40 Rocket for 8000 bucks

Saludos