[pp.int.general] @ Dutch Pirates

Nicolas Sahlqvist nicco77 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 22 01:06:30 CEST 2010


I've seen the Dutch police do those stop-and-search raids outside Amsterdam
and essentially they only stopped a certain kind of people, mostly colored
so I somehow doubt the claim that there were no "discriminatory patterns".


- Nicolas



On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:

>  On 10/20/2010 05:04 PM, Gregory Engels wrote:
>
>  On 20.10.2010, at 12:34, Justus Römeth wrote:
>
>  Amsterdam poised to ban flat-sharing
>
>
> This is so wring, it looks like outright stupidity from the outside.
> It is violating just so many human rights, including the
> right of property, and is involving into very private moments
> of one's life. And its also denies reality, of how people
> are living together.
>
>  But as far as i understand, this is just a proposal from some
> derailed  politician to put this to voting before city council?
> I think, that the amsterdam city council is not composed
> of complete idiots and will not make themselves completely
> ridiculous in the eye of the world's audience.
>
>
> There was recently a civil rights campaign in Amsterdam against the police
> being able to randomly stop-and-search people in the streets. Information
> sheets from the public authorities even explicitly stated the person stopped
> and searched did not necessarily have to be suspected for anything.
> Apparently the stops and searches were rather random (as in, no obvious
> discriminatory pattern against minority groups detected), but still...
>
> I did not hear about that having any effect on the Amsterdam establishment.
>
> Same campaign found two verdicts from ECoHR the declared such arbitrary
> stops and searches illegal. :/
>
> I meant, on the topic of what is plausible to happen in Amsterdam. Teh
> place is not so good.
>
> /a
>
>
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