[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 43, Issue 42

Wed Sep 29 16:11:45 CEST 2010

See Fujitsu Network Communications, Inc case on page 22 and Primavera
Systems, Inc case on page 26.  This looks like a tecnological embargo to
rest of the "unfriendly world".

2010/9/29 Francisco George <francisco.george at gmail.com>

> Real cases of violations
> http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/dontletthishappentoyou-2008.pdf
>
> <http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/dontletthishappentoyou-2008.pdf>But
> those are only Merchandise Cases no electronic exports
>
> 2010/9/29 Francisco George <francisco.george at gmail.com>
>
> Well this is an ongoing process that started back in 01/2010
>>
>> I discovered what, at that time, were little known list stored on the BIS
>> website
>> [http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/liststocheck.htm] of
>> the US Department of Commerce. My search started when I saw this at
>> SourceForge
>> [
>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/
>> ]
>>
>> Today I have republished an article on RedSinCensura.es I posted
>> originally on 08/02/2010 (February) on my blog
>> [
>> http://www.redsincensura.es/index.php/es/component/content/article/30-ultima-hora/324-la-ciberfrontera-de-estados-unidos-coica.html
>> ]
>> in Spanish.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Francisco George
>> Vocal JDN Partido Pirata España
>>
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>>>   1. COICA (lilo)
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>>>   3. Re: COICA (Andrew Norton)
>>>   4. Re: COICA (Amelia Andersdotter)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:50:41 +0200
>>> From: lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org>
>>> Subject: [pp.int.general] COICA
>>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>>>        <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
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>>>  Look at what is on de demonoid site:
>>> "COICA
>>>
>>> In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>>> Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week,
>>>  and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>>>  Thursday.
>>>
>>> If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of
>>>  the media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China
>>>  and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor
>>> will be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>>
>>>  Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>>> information.
>>>
>>> http://www.demonoid.com/
>>>
>>> COICA
>>>
>>> In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>>> Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and
>>> there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>>> Thursday.
>>>
>>> If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the
>>> media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and
>>> Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will
>>> be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>>
>>> Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Stop the Internet Blacklist
>>>
>>> And if you are a US citizen, please take the time sign this petition
>>> DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - --
>>> ~lilo
>>> ########
>>> plug me in - i want to go!
>>>
>>> "il cucchiaio non esiste"
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:05:19 +0200
>>> From: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>> Message-ID: <4CA2D71F.6010206 at gmail.com>
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>>>
>>>
>>> >  Look at what is on de demonoid site:
>>> > "COICA
>>> >
>>> > In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>>> > Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week,
>>> >  and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>>> >  Thursday.
>>> >
>>> > If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of
>>> >  the media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China
>>> >  and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor
>>> > will be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>> >
>>> >  Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>>> > information.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.demonoid.com/
>>> >
>>> > COICA
>>> >
>>> > In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>>> > Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and
>>> > there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>>> Thursday.
>>> >
>>> > If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the
>>> > media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and
>>> > Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will
>>> > be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>> >
>>> > Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>>> > information.
>>> >
>>>
>>> or here?
>>>
>>> http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/age-of-censorship-and-internet-trade.html#more
>>>
>>> i don't know what this means: "The bill was read twice and referred to
>>> the Committee on the Judiciary last Monday; "
>>>
>>> if it's been "read" twice, have stakeholders been able to have a say,
>>> and if so is it possible to look up what they've been saying?
>>>
>>> there are some similar propositions in the EU Stockholm programme from
>>> last year, although i seem to recall the Commission wanted to be able to
>>> block entire IP blocks.
>>>
>>> /a
>>>
>>> > Stop the Internet Blacklist
>>> >
>>> > And if you are a US citizen, please take the time sign this petition
>>> > DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:08:28 -0400
>>> From: Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>>> On 9/29/2010 2:05 AM, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > or here?
>>> >
>>> http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/age-of-censorship-and-internet-trade.html#more
>>> >
>>> > i don't know what this means: "The bill was read twice and referred to
>>> > the Committee on the Judiciary last Monday; "
>>> >
>>> > if it's been "read" twice, have stakeholders been able to have a say,
>>> > and if so is it possible to look up what they've been saying?
>>>
>>> It means it's been 'read out' twice into the congressional record.
>>> Usually it's not actually physically read out, but motioned to skip and
>>> accept as read.
>>>
>>> It's the first step, where it's officially noted, and then moved to
>>> committee. When (if) it comes out of committee, it will then go to a
>>> senate vote, then it'll go to the house and do the same thing over there.
>>>
>>> At no point is there any stakeholder consultations. That would be too
>>> much like a democracy.
>>>
>>> Andrew Norton
>>> US PP Legal Office
>>>
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Andrew Norton
>>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
>>> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:56 +0200
>>> From: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At no point is there any stakeholder consultations. That would be too
>>> > much like a democracy.
>>> >
>>> > Andrew Norton
>>> > US PP Legal Office
>>> >
>>>
>>> no preparatory assemblies? nothing? no hearings? :-/
>>>
>>> that's sick.
>>>
>>> /a
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