[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 43, Issue 42

Wed Sep 29 14:51:17 CEST 2010

Real cases of violations
http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/dontletthishappentoyou-2008.pdf
<http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/dontletthishappentoyou-2008.pdf>But
those are only Merchandise Cases no electronic exports

2010/9/29 Francisco George <francisco.george at gmail.com>

> Well this is an ongoing process that started back in 01/2010
>
> I discovered what, at that time, were little known list stored on the BIS
> website
> [http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/liststocheck.htm] of
> the US Department of Commerce. My search started when I saw this at
> SourceForge
> [
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/
> ]
>
> Today I have republished an article on RedSinCensura.es I posted originally
> on 08/02/2010 (February) on my blog
> [
> http://www.redsincensura.es/index.php/es/component/content/article/30-ultima-hora/324-la-ciberfrontera-de-estados-unidos-coica.html
> ]
> in Spanish.
>
> Best regards
>
> Francisco George
> Vocal JDN Partido Pirata España
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>   1. COICA (lilo)
>>   2. Re: COICA (Amelia Andersdotter)
>>   3. Re: COICA (Andrew Norton)
>>   4. Re: COICA (Amelia Andersdotter)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:50:41 +0200
>> From: lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org>
>> Subject: [pp.int.general] COICA
>> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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>>  Look at what is on de demonoid site:
>> "COICA
>>
>> In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>> Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week,
>>  and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>>  Thursday.
>>
>> If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of
>>  the media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China
>>  and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor
>> will be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>
>>  Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>> information.
>>
>> http://www.demonoid.com/
>>
>> COICA
>>
>> In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>> Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and
>> there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this Thursday.
>>
>> If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the
>> media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and
>> Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will
>> be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>>
>> Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>> information.
>>
>> Stop the Internet Blacklist
>>
>> And if you are a US citizen, please take the time sign this petition
>> DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
>>
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - --
>> ~lilo
>> ########
>> plug me in - i want to go!
>>
>> "il cucchiaio non esiste"
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:05:19 +0200
>> From: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>>
>> >  Look at what is on de demonoid site:
>> > "COICA
>> >
>> > In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>> > Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week,
>> >  and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>> >  Thursday.
>> >
>> > If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of
>> >  the media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China
>> >  and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor
>> > will be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>> >
>> >  Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>> > information.
>> >
>> > http://www.demonoid.com/
>> >
>> > COICA
>> >
>> > In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online
>> > Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and
>> > there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this
>> Thursday.
>> >
>> > If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the
>> > media copanies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and
>> > Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will
>> > be completely removed form the internet and not just in the US.
>> >
>> > Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more
>> > information.
>> >
>>
>> or here?
>>
>> http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/age-of-censorship-and-internet-trade.html#more
>>
>> i don't know what this means: "The bill was read twice and referred to
>> the Committee on the Judiciary last Monday; "
>>
>> if it's been "read" twice, have stakeholders been able to have a say,
>> and if so is it possible to look up what they've been saying?
>>
>> there are some similar propositions in the EU Stockholm programme from
>> last year, although i seem to recall the Commission wanted to be able to
>> block entire IP blocks.
>>
>> /a
>>
>> > Stop the Internet Blacklist
>> >
>> > And if you are a US citizen, please take the time sign this petition
>> > DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-segal/stop-the-internet-blackli_b_739836.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:08:28 -0400
>> From: Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>> On 9/29/2010 2:05 AM, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > or here?
>> >
>> http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/age-of-censorship-and-internet-trade.html#more
>> >
>> > i don't know what this means: "The bill was read twice and referred to
>> > the Committee on the Judiciary last Monday; "
>> >
>> > if it's been "read" twice, have stakeholders been able to have a say,
>> > and if so is it possible to look up what they've been saying?
>>
>> It means it's been 'read out' twice into the congressional record.
>> Usually it's not actually physically read out, but motioned to skip and
>> accept as read.
>>
>> It's the first step, where it's officially noted, and then moved to
>> committee. When (if) it comes out of committee, it will then go to a
>> senate vote, then it'll go to the house and do the same thing over there.
>>
>> At no point is there any stakeholder consultations. That would be too
>> much like a democracy.
>>
>> Andrew Norton
>> US PP Legal Office
>>
>>
>> - --
>> Andrew Norton
>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
>> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:56 +0200
>> From: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] COICA
>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>> >
>> >
>> > At no point is there any stakeholder consultations. That would be too
>> > much like a democracy.
>> >
>> > Andrew Norton
>> > US PP Legal Office
>> >
>>
>> no preparatory assemblies? nothing? no hearings? :-/
>>
>> that's sick.
>>
>> /a
>>
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