[pp.int.general] The Venus project?

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Sat Aug 6 19:53:47 CEST 2011


If their message is 100% bullshit, then the fact that financial
elites, without producing anything but scams, have raped our societies
for decades, and we now have to pay the price, is something good. Is
this what you mean?

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
> 90% of propaganda is truth. Much of what they say is true. This doesnt
> mean that their message isnt 100% bullshit.
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> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Disagree. As in my previous post, I don't buy the kind of solutions
>> proposed by Zeitgeist, but "bullshit" is too much and undeserved.
>> Parts of their analysis of today's world are correct, especially on
>> the financial system.
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>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> zeitgeist is a cult film. They believe in bringing the worlds
>>> population down to 10 million but dont say how they intend to do it.
>>>
>>> zeitgeist is bullshit. So is the venus project. Lets get back to reality now....
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>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Stéphane Vanbellinghen
>>> <carnops at pirateparty.be> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Before joining the Belgian Pirate Party, in 2009, I dug a little bit on this
>>>> after a friend recommended the 1st Zeitgeist movie.
>>>>
>>>> Even if the movies are not totally accurate, it has the merit to question many
>>>> things that I didn't consider before and to spot the important topics to
>>>> design the future.
>>>>
>>>> The Venus Project has, in my opinion, interesting ideas on urban planning,
>>>> transportation, energy production, ressources management and so on.
>>>>
>>>> I've quite the same feeling as Giulio Prisco when he says :
>>>>
>>>>> But the proposed solutions are too centralized for my taste, I smell a
>>>>> type of benevolent authoritarianism that I prefer to keep away from.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't give my trust to either a centralized AI as decision maker or a
>>>> benevolant dictator.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, if you are interested on the topic, read the VP documents and compare
>>>> it to some other available informations to shape your point of view.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stéphane VANBELLINGHEN
>>>> Pirate Party Belgium
>>>> Co-Chairman
>>>> +32 496 74 28 02
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