[pp.int.general] The Venus project?

[Aftermath]

nope, I mean some people believe 100% propaganda.

Propaganda is 90% truth.

This cult film is 100% propaganda.

I dont know how to say it any simpler.




On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
> If their message is 100% bullshit, then the fact that financial
> elites, without producing anything but scams, have raped our societies
> for decades, and we now have to pay the price, is something good. Is
> this what you mean?
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 90% of propaganda is truth. Much of what they say is true. This doesnt
>> mean that their message isnt 100% bullshit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Disagree. As in my previous post, I don't buy the kind of solutions
>>> proposed by Zeitgeist, but "bullshit" is too much and undeserved.
>>> Parts of their analysis of today's world are correct, especially on
>>> the financial system.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> zeitgeist is a cult film. They believe in bringing the worlds
>>>> population down to 10 million but dont say how they intend to do it.
>>>>
>>>> zeitgeist is bullshit. So is the venus project. Lets get back to reality now....
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Stéphane Vanbellinghen
>>>> <carnops at pirateparty.be> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Before joining the Belgian Pirate Party, in 2009, I dug a little bit on this
>>>>> after a friend recommended the 1st Zeitgeist movie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if the movies are not totally accurate, it has the merit to question many
>>>>> things that I didn't consider before and to spot the important topics to
>>>>> design the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Venus Project has, in my opinion, interesting ideas on urban planning,
>>>>> transportation, energy production, ressources management and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've quite the same feeling as Giulio Prisco when he says :
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the proposed solutions are too centralized for my taste, I smell a
>>>>>> type of benevolent authoritarianism that I prefer to keep away from.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't give my trust to either a centralized AI as decision maker or a
>>>>> benevolant dictator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, if you are interested on the topic, read the VP documents and compare
>>>>> it to some other available informations to shape your point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stéphane VANBELLINGHEN
>>>>> Pirate Party Belgium
>>>>> Co-Chairman
>>>>> +32 496 74 28 02
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