[pp.int.general] Will you start to raise awareness over SOPA?

[Marko Mitrovic]

Hopefully, or entire world be knee-deep into shit.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
> As you say, the US system is very corrupt. Most Americans
> instinctively love personal freedom, more than us here in EU, but at
> the same time they are used to believe what they are told, more than
> us here in EU. It is then easy for the political right to persuade
> them that the sociopath "bankers" are just exercising their personal
> freedom, while in reality they have purchased political power
> wholesale.
>
> But I am confident in the instinctive love of freedom of most
> Americans. At some point they will say Enough, like they did in the
> 60s. The anti Vietnam protests and civil right movement of the 60s has
> had a very deep influence on the US until the election of W, and I
> hope OWS will have an equally deep influence until mid century.
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Marko Mitrovic <archamond at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I support OWS wholeheartedly.
>> Though I'm not convinced by their numbers. And they have been on the
>> streets for months with no effect on the system. It is just so corrupt
>> that they don't care about thousands of freedom-loving people, and I
>> think that they might go into "Arab Dictator Mode" if OWS becomes too
>> dangerous. Sad really, what a country US was and what it became.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not so fast Marko. With OWS, thye people of the US have shown that
>>> they are waking up. We should support them.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Marko Mitrovic <archamond at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> We are all very well aware of SOPA and consequences.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, USA are lost cause. They have gone to path with no return, and
>>>> it's up to rest of the world to distance themselves from falling
>>>> empire. I think that after turbulent start of SOPA, many of the
>>>> infrastructure and companies will simply migrate from US, degrading
>>>> them to Chinese level at best.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Pat Mächler
>>>> <patrick.maechler at pp-international.net> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM
>>>>> This video explains quite well why pirates ALL OVER THE WORLD should
>>>>> be REALLY concerned what is currently going on in the US;
>>>>> also see http://www.pp-international.net/node/510
>>>>>
>>>>> This is at least as bad as ACTA in my opinion.
>>>>> Keep in mind:
>>>>> 1) In a country where free speech has been held high once so high,
>>>>> it's a terrible sign that such a bill is even discussed for more than
>>>>> one day
>>>>> 2) The US has currently still (directly or indirectly) a relatively
>>>>> high level of control over crucial Internet infrastructure
>>>>> 3) The US has a good history where they try to spread their great
>>>>> legislative ideas over all other countries (of course, they're
>>>>> probably not the only one there, but they have political means which
>>>>> they are not so reluctant to use)
>>>>>
>>>>> -pat
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