[pp.int.general] Filing charges against the board of PPI regarding the next GA Location.
Samir Allioui
coretx at gmail.com
Wed Dec 21 00:47:00 CET 2011
*applaus*
Hear Hear !
As icing on the cake one quote from Jhessice Rhei:
"corruption and self-interest over colective interest are predominant"
On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Brendan Molloy wrote:
> I shouldn't have to wake up, see an email from PPI and sigh.
>
> Was it really necessary to cross-post this to PPI General? I know, let's
> add the media mailing lists of every single country, just in case
> somebody didn't notice what is essentially a bureaucratic tantrum.
>
> Perhaps instead of letting stupid shit like this get to the boiling
> point of random, broad accusations of corruption, we communicate these
> issues before they become actual issues resulting in the breakdown of an
> organisation.
>
> An email to the leaders list highlighting the lack of non-European
> applications for a conference would have been apt enough to make it
> clear to the members of PPI that there is little choice in hosting, and
> as it stands, I don't think anyone had voiced much concern other than
> not having it in Germany again.
>
> As far as I am concerned, being in Australia, I would prefer a
> non-European conference, sure, but did we have the time and resources to
> devote to hosting such a conference? No, so we don't really have the
> right to bitch about where it is hosted unless we're willing to do it
> ourselves (and we are considering 2014). Until then, any hosting is good
> hosting.
>
> My understanding is that Tunisia did not formally apply to host the
> conference, and therefore you can't reasonably expect people to support
> hosting it there, and you can't expect the board to vote for conference
> hosting in a country that has recently had a significant amount of
> political unrest and has not formally applied to host the conference.
>
> If there still remains issues, bring it up with the euro-banana republic
> that is the CoA and see what happens. I am already bothered by a
> President dropping out of PPI for what I see as "too hard, fuck you all"
> when elected to represent the member states of PPI, and I am also
> seriously tired of people holding their state parties in higher regard
> and priority than representing PPI.
>
> Stop making everything personal. Start getting shit done, or get out of
> the fucking way and let someone else do it. PPI should not be wasting
> its time promoting itself to its own members; it should be branching out
> and making links with other NGOs, trying to get member spots on WIPO
> committees and other things that will grow support for the organisation
> abroad.
>
> Time for a change of focus, in more ways than one.
>
> Thomas Gaul wrote:
>> Am 21.12.2011 00:16, schrieb Samir Allioui:
>>> This excludes the emails received !
>>>
>>
>> Dear Samir!
>>
>> Feel free to post them on your own behalf.
>>
>> I just wanted to provide available information and am not in the
>> position to crosspost emails sent to the board. (privacy?)
>>
>> As the matter is IMHO of importance and carries heavy accusations
>> against certain people, information is of importance. But I consider
>> this to be the task of the Court of Arbitration.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Thomas
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Thomas Gaul
>>> <thomas.gaul at pp-international.net
>>> <mailto:thomas.gaul at pp-international.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 20.12.2011 23 <tel:20.12.2011%2023>:19, schrieb Samir Allioui:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Pirates,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today the board had the opportunity and obligation to vote for the
>>>> location of the next General Assembly.
>>>>
>>>> As you can read here: http://ppi.piratenpad.de/agenda-2011-12-20?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Candidates where;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - The Pirate Party of the Czech Republic.
>>>>
>>>> - The Pirate Party of Russia.
>>>>
>>>> - The Pirate Party of Tunisia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Four board members voted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Thomas Gaul - member of the Pirate Party of Germany.
>>>>
>>>> - Lola Voronina - member of the Pirate Party of Russia, living in
>>>> Prague, the Czech Republic.
>>>>
>>>> - Patrick Maechler - member of the Pirate Party of Switzerland.
>>>>
>>>> - Samir Allioui - member of the Pirate Party of the Netherlands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So far the Pirate Party of Austria, Sweden, Finland, Germany, and
>>>> Belgium had the honor of hosting a PPI General Assembly.
>>>>
>>>> The members of PPI decided to let all parties have the honor to host
>>>> in turns.
>>>>
>>>> PPI members also agreed upon having the next PPI general assembly
>>>> outside of Europe.
>>>>
>>>> These choices where made democratically and with concencus.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not only did we have the last GA in Europe, but also in a
>>> country who
>>>> held it once before already.
>>>>
>>>> This due to corruption within PPI. Obviously, this pissed off a
>>> lot of
>>>> pirate parties.
>>>>
>>>> Especially considering the fact that they already where pissed
>>> off due
>>>> to the Brussels Conference failure which was "organized" by the same
>>>> people who shifted the one afterwards to Germany.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today however, PPI chose to have the next GA in Prague, in the
>>> center
>>>> of Europe.
>>>>
>>>> Other options where Russia, and Tunisia.
>>>>
>>>> Considering the exact location of the Russian city cited, only
>>> Tunisia
>>>> was a non european option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Herefore, i voted for Tunisia, however the rest of the board has
>>> voted
>>>> for Prague against the will of the members of PPI.
>>>>
>>>> I ask the board of arbitration to declare this vote invalid and
>>> corrupt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, i ask the overseas Pirate Parties to file formal
>>>> complaints to the board, and the COA.
>>>>
>>>> If the COA does not research this affair, i have no option but to
>>>> resign from my post as president of PPI.
>>>>
>>>> As a finishing note i'd like to add that it is better to
>>> boycott, then
>>>> that it is to leave PPI.
>>>>
>>>> After all, when all good people leave, the bad people gain
>>> majority -
>>>> allowing corruption such as this to perpetuate.
>>>>
>>>> So please do not abandon your PPI membership. ( As some have done in
>>>> the past for the very same reason. )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samir Allioui
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> As the minutes are not in proper order - as you can hear at the
>>> very end
>>> of the second part of the recording, here are the links to the already
>>> uploaded recordings of todays meeting (Pat will check it).:
>>>
>>> Part 1:
>>> <:http://pirate-parties.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mumble-2011-12-20-19-11-53-mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de-Mixdown.ogg>
>>>
>>> Part 2:
>>> <http://pirate-parties.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Mumble-2011-12-20-21-43-05-mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de-Mixdown.ogg>
>>>
>>> They had been uploaded a few minutes after the meeting (don't wonder
>>> about the server, as mypirates.net <http://mypirates.net> had been
>>> down for a while, the
>>> recordings had been uploaded there.)
>>>
>>> For the offers the board had received (including the latest
>>> information
>>> the board had had, Samir will surely confirm it), please have a
>>> look at
>>>
>>> <http://int.piratenpartei.de/2012-GA-offers>.
>>>
>>> Feel free to check the information.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thomas Gaul
>>> Member of the Board - Pirate Parties International (PPI)
>>> Tel. +49 5352 968565 <tel:%2B49%205352%20968565> - Fax +49 3212
>>> 1252657 <tel:%2B49%203212%201252657>
>>> http://www.pp-international.net/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Brendan Molloy
> Secretary
> Pirate Party Australia
>
> M: +61 449 617 246
> W: http://www.pirateparty.org.au
> E: brendan.molloy at pirateparty.org.au
> T: @piecritic
>
>
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