[pp.int.general] Let's discuss Lola's sexual life :)
Paul Da Silva
pdasilva at partipirate.org
Wed Dec 21 12:03:36 CET 2011
Hi everyone,
Can't seem to find the original mail Samir issued but the quotes Lola is
giving here are way enough to make me want to answer as i'm kind of
concerned here.
First I'd like to ask Samir to apologize to Lola because it's no way to
treat a woman nor a colleague nor anyone actually.
Then my private life and Lola's private life is private. Keep it this way
and don't see any conflict on any interest whatsoever - i did discuss some
pirate stuff with her but it was this and only this : a discussion between
adults who are able to think by themselves and have their own opinion. She
actually told me it was a bad idea to form a new PP in France numerous
times and we argued about it as many times.
About this matter : yes it's a project right now that we (a few french
pirates + me) are having to create a new Pirate Party in France. We tried
to make it work from the inside, didn't succeed we'll try from the outside.
I discussed this with a lot of other pirates and Lola has always been the
one to tell me not to do it... Otherwise all the discussions i had with
other pirates ended by a "good luck" because if you know the situation that
led us to this decision you cannot not understand it. Off topic !
Finally I want to confirm what Lola said : we did not date when i was in
the board, and even if we did i don't see the point of all this. Should i
remind you who was the candidate ruling for CAO against Lola ?
2011/12/21 Lola Voronina <lola.voronina at pp-international.net>
> Dear Samir and Pirates,
>
> I never thought we will be discussing my private life on the general
> mailing list...
>
> "The other guy you are referring to however made the french pirate
> party fork and was fucking the PPI COA Lola. What a great display of
> integrity !"
>
> I don't have to say, that you are using inappropriate words
> and inappropriate methods. Other Pirates told that to you already. You
> just forgot to mention how I asked the Board members to stay for an
> informal discussion after the Board meeting. How I informed the board
> members that my boyfriend is planning to organize a new PP in France and
> that I am being against it. That I was worried that people would follow
> him, because they know that we were together that moment and would expect
> the PPI support. I ask the other board members and ex board members, who
> were presented on this discussion to confirm my words. I was AGAINST the
> new PP-FR and you know it.
>
> "However, when two people are within one board, they should not be in
> a relationship."
>
> Totally agree. You, being my friend in past, do know that I wasn't in the
> relationship with that person when he was the board member. I never had any
> contact with him apart of few words at the conference in Friedrichshafen
> ("Excuse me, Is it you going for the CAO position?" "Yes!" "Good luck!") We
> exchanged the contacts with that person when I was composing the e-mail to
> pp-leaders about his resignation - 2 month after he resigned. 2 month after
> exchanging the contacts we started dating. He resigned in May. Started
> dating in September. Conflict of interests? Where? 2 people within the
> board? What are you talking about?
>
> "Also important to know: I have no feud with Lola. Or at least not
> a personal one."
>
> Yes, Samir doesn't have any personal problems with me. This person was
> staying at my flat, being my guest end of November-beginning of December
> when visiting Prague. Being my friend and my GUEST. For eastern people
> (like Russians) that means a lot. No need to explain more. We were going
> out for drinks as well, talking on private subjects... I knew that time
> already what kind of person Samir is, I could expect him to discuss my
> private life, my secrets with his friends while having a beer. But I never
> expected him to write it on the mailing list. I'm more than disappointed.
>
> "I do however, mind the fact that our Chief Administrative Officer
> still has not presented proper administration for PPI."
>
> Please show me any results of your work being a Co-Chairman :)
>
> I was considering the resignation from the PPI Board for one simple reason
> - I don't want to be a part of Samir Allioui's Board. But I'm not going to
> do it. I think that PPI needs me and my work. I'm just going to minimize
> all possible contacts with Samir on personal or professional level. I
> believe this conflict won't affect the work of the PPI Board, because we
> now have compltely different tasks. I will be organizing the next GA, and
> Samir (hopefully) completing his old unfinished tasks.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lola Voronina,
>
> Chief Administrative Officer, Pirate Parties International.
>
> P.S. I apologize to my ex-boyfriend for bringing our relationships on
> public.
>
> P.P.S. Thanks to all Pirates for their support!
>
>
>
>
>
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