[pp.int.general] PPI GA Prague / Video Conference System for remote delegates

[Choms]

for the website ofc, and the hardware I think it should work the actual one
:P was only an opinion, most actual browsers can display html5 (I don't
really think IE6 users are our principal target lol). And of course I will
help on whatever I can, just tell me, but I'm just trying to be productive
and offer alternatives, not just to keep the "flash vs FLOSS" discussion.
El 29/12/2011 12:41, "Wolfgang Preiss" <w.preiss at gmx.de> escribió:

>  You are welcome to set it up, invest in the propper hardware,  design a
> website, create all the proper scripts and travel to all the places where
> somethig is to stream, and explain people why they need to download ogg
> codecs and why their maybe older IE does not play the stream.
>
> When can we expect your services?
>
>
> Am 29.12.2011 13:38, schrieb Choms:
>
> Mh, why don't just stream via OGG on a html5 page for output (so anybody
> can see it without flash), then for income let people to use various
> communication methods (IRC for those who don't want flash, and actual
> system for those who want to speak with audio + video)? I think is better
> to mount various possibilities than only one who includes everybody (imho)
>
> 2011/12/29 Wolfgang Preiss <w.preiss at gmx.de>
>
>> Am 29.12.2011 12:16, schrieb Maxime Rouquet:
>>
>>  Not exactly. Here on this list you will always be told ways to do better
>>> ;). Whether what you do is right or wrong depends of the people, but any
>>> improvement is a good thing and a step in the right direction.
>>>
>>
>>  No actually you want me to give up working solutions on either no or
>> worse solution as long your ideology is being fullfilled, no matter how
>> successful working solutions are. You want me to fulfill your ideology. No,
>> Sir, I won't become your or Mr Stallmans tool of extremist ideology.
>>
>>
>>  At the moment I am out of options
>>>>
>>> Did you check at Ekiga Richard Stallman talked to you about ? It is free
>>> software, is available on both GNU/Linux and Microsoft Windows, and is
>>> compatible with at least the Theora video codec.
>>>
>>  This is a one to one solution, no conference possible
>>
>>  Richard Stallman is not telling you to drop political transparency, he
>>> is asking you to find a way to reach it using free software. We have at
>>> least 4 months to look for ways to achieve both, before having to choose
>>> between different kind of concessions.
>>>
>>
>>  Wrong. Let me quote Mr Stallman:
>>
>>
>>  What alternative is there?  The most obvious alternative is -- no
>>> streaming.  Make recordings, and post them later in Ogg formats or
>>> Webm.  Chat using IRC.  All this is easy to do.  So don't I have not
>>> offered you an alternative.
>>>
>>
>>  Clear statement - either streaming based on free (=approved by stallman)
>> software, or no streaming. This is clearly sacrificing transparency to
>> ideology.
>>
>> As I said. I am out of opinions, and tired for being bashed. I will
>> discuss this matter with PPI officials and GA organisators. And if "free
>> software" is a must, maybe we should follow Stallmans suggestion and give
>> up whatever pirate work as long there is no "free software" tool.
>>
>> Besides: why isn't there anyone offering doing all the work with free
>> software? why are there only people demanding to use free software, without
>> naming a product to use?
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
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