[pp.int.general] PPI GA Prague / Video Conference System for remote delegates

[Wolfgang Preiss]

You are welcome to set it up, invest in the propper hardware,  design a 
website, create all the proper scripts and travel to all the places 
where somethig is to stream, and explain people why they need to 
download ogg codecs and why their maybe older IE does not play the stream.

When can we expect your services?


Am 29.12.2011 13:38, schrieb Choms:
> Mh, why don't just stream via OGG on a html5 page for output (so 
> anybody can see it without flash), then for income let people to use 
> various communication methods (IRC for those who don't want flash, and 
> actual system for those who want to speak with audio + video)? I think 
> is better to mount various possibilities than only one who includes 
> everybody (imho)
>
> 2011/12/29 Wolfgang Preiss <w.preiss at gmx.de <mailto:w.preiss at gmx.de>>
>
>     Am 29.12.2011 12:16, schrieb Maxime Rouquet:
>
>         Not exactly. Here on this list you will always be told ways to
>         do better ;). Whether what you do is right or wrong depends of
>         the people, but any improvement is a good thing and a step in
>         the right direction.
>
>
>     No actually you want me to give up working solutions on either no
>     or worse solution as long your ideology is being fullfilled, no
>     matter how successful working solutions are. You want me to
>     fulfill your ideology. No, Sir, I won't become your or Mr
>     Stallmans tool of extremist ideology.
>
>
>             At the moment I am out of options
>
>         Did you check at Ekiga Richard Stallman talked to you about ?
>         It is free
>         software, is available on both GNU/Linux and Microsoft
>         Windows, and is
>         compatible with at least the Theora video codec.
>
>     This is a one to one solution, no conference possible
>
>         Richard Stallman is not telling you to drop political
>         transparency, he is asking you to find a way to reach it using
>         free software. We have at least 4 months to look for ways to
>         achieve both, before having to choose between different kind
>         of concessions.
>
>
>     Wrong. Let me quote Mr Stallman:
>
>
>         What alternative is there?  The most obvious alternative is -- no
>         streaming.  Make recordings, and post them later in Ogg formats or
>         Webm.  Chat using IRC.  All this is easy to do.  So don't I
>         have not
>         offered you an alternative.
>
>
>     Clear statement - either streaming based on free (=approved by
>     stallman) software, or no streaming. This is clearly sacrificing
>     transparency to ideology.
>
>     As I said. I am out of opinions, and tired for being bashed. I
>     will discuss this matter with PPI officials and GA organisators.
>     And if "free software" is a must, maybe we should follow Stallmans
>     suggestion and give up whatever pirate work as long there is no
>     "free software" tool.
>
>     Besides: why isn't there anyone offering doing all the work with
>     free software? why are there only people demanding to use free
>     software, without naming a product to use?
>
>     Wolfgang
>
>
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