[pp.int.general] PPI GA Prague / Video Conference System for remote delegates

Choms choms at botmania.net
Thu Dec 29 13:38:59 CET 2011


Mh, why don't just stream via OGG on a html5 page for output (so anybody
can see it without flash), then for income let people to use various
communication methods (IRC for those who don't want flash, and actual
system for those who want to speak with audio + video)? I think is better
to mount various possibilities than only one who includes everybody (imho)

2011/12/29 Wolfgang Preiss <w.preiss at gmx.de>

> Am 29.12.2011 12:16, schrieb Maxime Rouquet:
>
>  Not exactly. Here on this list you will always be told ways to do better
>> ;). Whether what you do is right or wrong depends of the people, but any
>> improvement is a good thing and a step in the right direction.
>>
>
> No actually you want me to give up working solutions on either no or worse
> solution as long your ideology is being fullfilled, no matter how
> successful working solutions are. You want me to fulfill your ideology. No,
> Sir, I won't become your or Mr Stallmans tool of extremist ideology.
>
>
>  At the moment I am out of options
>>>
>> Did you check at Ekiga Richard Stallman talked to you about ? It is free
>> software, is available on both GNU/Linux and Microsoft Windows, and is
>> compatible with at least the Theora video codec.
>>
> This is a one to one solution, no conference possible
>
>  Richard Stallman is not telling you to drop political transparency, he is
>> asking you to find a way to reach it using free software. We have at least
>> 4 months to look for ways to achieve both, before having to choose between
>> different kind of concessions.
>>
>
> Wrong. Let me quote Mr Stallman:
>
>
>  What alternative is there?  The most obvious alternative is -- no
>> streaming.  Make recordings, and post them later in Ogg formats or
>> Webm.  Chat using IRC.  All this is easy to do.  So don't I have not
>> offered you an alternative.
>>
>
> Clear statement - either streaming based on free (=approved by stallman)
> software, or no streaming. This is clearly sacrificing transparency to
> ideology.
>
> As I said. I am out of opinions, and tired for being bashed. I will
> discuss this matter with PPI officials and GA organisators. And if "free
> software" is a must, maybe we should follow Stallmans suggestion and give
> up whatever pirate work as long there is no "free software" tool.
>
> Besides: why isn't there anyone offering doing all the work with free
> software? why are there only people demanding to use free software, without
> naming a product to use?
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
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