[pp.int.general] Lobbying EgyptSat To Provide Free Internet Services For Egyptians

Fri Feb 4 06:29:18 CET 2011

:) 

sweet. I had a feeling the pp-int had wise people around.

yes latency was discussed. after all, distance is somewhat significant and power limited causing rates  to be low (is that the equation ). figured it may be a last resort comm. link.  

also, US seems to have deep pockets & hook up's/leverage/interests ;)
yes scary. that's why I'm trying to document certain misgivings or potential issues via #openmesh on twitter. Transparency being a huge point.  nobody would truly trust it unless they ran it in a 'true' virtuous manner - if that's is possible (even on the international level). 

Common goals keep me close to the project, yet at arms length. I have offered a key person my analytical and technical skills as needed. they understand I am Anonymous in principle. so common interest for the people keeps ideas flowing - for the people. "kill the Internet kill switch" being the higher level idea. yes, 'access now' is the mentality. I do understand that. still...

so here we are. anyone need help with  any other sweet 'kill the Internet kill switch' projects?

btw. other plans include wimax backhauls. something about parking a ship off shore and aiming various uplink things - yes, a ship - pirates :)
talk of openBTS was thrown around. that Live CD idea  I find to be a security problem - seeing that people will be in a vulnerable state, while opportunists could likely mess with your junk ;)

of course, dialup seems to be something that worked in Egypt. so we can hookup a mesh network to extend that. use multi point gateway technology built in OLSR, with multiple dialup modems spread around. APs with batteries in backpacks for mobile mesh net . . . ;)

mesh does work very well. I've been experimenting since last august.

hmmm... ran out of words :(
must try to get some sleep.

I'm up to discus projects. let me know. or check out openmeshproject.org if you feel you can work directly with them. sure to get exposure if you got skillzzz.

we will win this cyber war waged by tyrants and dictators on us all.

force transparency seems like one goal. option to remain anonymous is another. are these concepts compatible?

cheers Sisters and Brothers,

gs1

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 3, 2011, at 23:27, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On second thought yeah if you can put me in touch with him I'd like to ask him a few questions.  Thanks alot!
> 
> Jay Emerson
> Administrative Officer
> Pirate Party of New York
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011 8:46 PM, "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at contralaguerra.org> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > 
> > About satellite communications, some points:
> > 
> > Last year I asked a friend about sat-com because everyone at Bangkok's
> > hackerspace went nuts with the (buggy) filtering proxy of Thai's government.
> > 
> > I have a friend who is an amazing telecom expert, running a satellite
> > communication's firm in EMEA, so I asked him about rates and latency.
> > 
> > 
> > In short:
> > 
> > 1000 US$ / mbps / month
> > Equipment: btw 1200 and 2000 US$
> > Link Latency 500 ms (all geosynchronous satellites have this delay)
> > Emitter dish considerably bigger that a simple Sat-TV receiver (AFAIR
> > 2,5M diameter)
> > 
> > IMHO discouraging. If you want it anyway, I can put you in touch with him.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Kenneth
> > 
> > On 04/02/11 01:00, Jay Emerson wrote:
> >> Thanks and will do.
> >> 
> >> Jay Emerson
> >> Administrative Officer
> >> Pirate Party of New York
> >> On Feb 3, 2011 1:41 AM, "bbox-gs" <borgbox.drone.guinness1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> nice Op. Jay
> >>>
> >>> also, keep an eye on #openmesh on twitter. looks like they will try and
> >> buy a satellite. I'm contributing ideas for tech., from afar (still, if they
> >> can help - got to push this) - strange bed fellows, I'm on my own. but I'm
> >> trying to add ideas to make it robust AND pushing to give it to an
> >> International Org., for full transparency -not US control.
> >>> it's an interesting read,
> >>> at least #borgboxgs1 comments ;)
> >>>
> >>> anyone know of a good trusted Org. to run the SAT?
> >>>
> >>> the US centric core group is probably ignoring common sense I think :(
> >>> note: Gary Jay Brooks seems like a good egg so far. Shervin???
> >>>
> >>> maybe more push from the international community would help.
> >>>
> >>> it has good potential in the right hands.
> >>>
> >>> to be seen...
> >>>
> >>> Peace Brother
> >>>
> >>> gs1
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPod
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 0:31, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Would members of PPI be up for helping us lobby this company to provide
> >> free Satellite Internet Services for the Egyptian people?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.egyptsat.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> I have started a PiratePad and will collaborate with others if this is
> >> something some of us would want to do:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://piratenpad.de/ipzdFy569K
> >>>>
> >>>> While it has been restored, I think preparing for another shut down is
> >> best and what we do:
> >> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/egypt-internet-back-up-as-protests-turn-violent-in-cairo/
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in advance and feel free to start without me on the PiratePad.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Jay
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jay Emerson
> >>>> Administrative Officer
> >>>> New York Pirate Party
> >>>>
> >>>> "My user has information that could...that could make this a free system
> >> again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this place, and
> >> no MCP looking over your shoulder." - Tron
> >>>>
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