[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 47, Issue 4

[Justus Römeth]

So basically, Pirates are not happy with their leadership unless the name of
the leader is Falkvinge.

I can see some of the criticism making sense, but most of this just seems to
be an issue of transparacy.

Re: the next PPI conference: Samir, how do you know whether the countries
that sai to at the last conference did send a concrete offer now or not? And
if they didn't, is PPI supposed to wait till forever with announcing the
next conference, regardless of toher good offers that are there or not? If
the only good offer came from Germany, would it really hurt PPI so much to
have the next conference there? Is that worse than having no conference at
all?

In the end, in light of the criticism all kinds of PP leadership seems to
get everywhere, wouldn't it make more sense to ask these kinds of questions
shortly before the next election of said leadership, ie the next PPI
conference?

Cheers
-J

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:

>  i am largely in agreement with samir, and will take this opportunity to
> push my additional commentary on the participants in the list.
>
>
> On 02.01.2011 16:43, Core TX wrote:
>
>
> - All taskforces are down, and we need them !
>
>
> i disagree with this. it is better with temporary affiliations around stuff
> that people feel is important. uhm. except i really, really think that there
> should be a task force or temporary affiliation around writing a response
> for the data protection directive consultation since this is likely one of
> the most important events that is likely to come up in the next few years.
> if you want to play a bureaucratic game, please care about the bureaucracy.
> this is not difficult. the deadline is january 12th as i believe i have told
> a number of people for a few months.
>
>
>  - We need coordination for the EU elections.
>
>
> this i do agree with. if we could figure out what we want out of/with our
> engagement in european union politics we need to coordinate that. i don't
> think that non-european parties need to care about that, however. it's good
> for europeans to have informed views on fta:s and is probably good to get
> external information for that (also i would please like to sort out this
> entire northern african telecommunications situation - i want to know what
> france telecom owns and what it doesn't own, also i once met this
> palestinian lawyer who talked a lot about "secondary" blocking of
> information for occupied areas, ref sahara occidental and gaza/westbank, and
> how eu support or non-trade snactins against countries who engage in that
> behaviour might be contrary to some e trade agreement provisions that they
> have with the blockers).
>
>
>  - We can safe resources on a joint scientific bureau
> - NGO's want a single contact point, not a chat with all 50+ parties ( PPI
> can relay 98% of the same data, and relay the other 2% )
>
>
> this is also true. it is a serious bitch to keep in touch with x number of
> different actors, and if anyone wants media etc on for example european
> issues it really really helps if european parties have a joint contact
> person. i guess this will be rick falkvinge now that he is moving on the
> european coordination, so perhaps we can rally behind him. also, i guess,
> lobby him for your national peculiarities :-)
>
> /a
>
>  - We can get subsidies
>
> Personally, if no party objects, i'd like to see one PPI conference location
> per continent.
> And all sites having beamers with the other sites onscreen.
>
>
>
>
>  Hmm, this turned into slightly more of an essay than I was planning but
> never mind - just a few thoughts on the matters. Finally, I hope
> everyone had a good new year.
>
> -Will
> [Former PPI Coreteam member]
>
>
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