[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 47, Issue 4

[piratska partija]

my addition to the next PPI conference "internationalization" will come in
offer in next few days (Croatia hopefully).
on Balkans we take holidays seriously, hence delay :)

*addition to PPI conference and stuff I learned out of chaotic PPI board
(witch I am part of) election.



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Justus Römeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:

> So basically, Pirates are not happy with their leadership unless the name
> of the leader is Falkvinge.
>
> I can see some of the criticism making sense, but most of this just seems
> to be an issue of transparacy.
>
> Re: the next PPI conference: Samir, how do you know whether the countries
> that sai to at the last conference did send a concrete offer now or not? And
> if they didn't, is PPI supposed to wait till forever with announcing the
> next conference, regardless of toher good offers that are there or not? If
> the only good offer came from Germany, would it really hurt PPI so much to
> have the next conference there? Is that worse than having no conference at
> all?
>
> In the end, in light of the criticism all kinds of PP leadership seems to
> get everywhere, wouldn't it make more sense to ask these kinds of questions
> shortly before the next election of said leadership, ie the next PPI
> conference?
>
> Cheers
> -J
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  i am largely in agreement with samir, and will take this opportunity to
>> push my additional commentary on the participants in the list.
>>
>>
>> On 02.01.2011 16:43, Core TX wrote:
>>
>>
>> - All taskforces are down, and we need them !
>>
>>
>> i disagree with this. it is better with temporary affiliations around
>> stuff that people feel is important. uhm. except i really, really think that
>> there should be a task force or temporary affiliation around writing a
>> response for the data protection directive consultation since this is likely
>> one of the most important events that is likely to come up in the next few
>> years. if you want to play a bureaucratic game, please care about the
>> bureaucracy. this is not difficult. the deadline is january 12th as i
>> believe i have told a number of people for a few months.
>>
>>
>>  - We need coordination for the EU elections.
>>
>>
>> this i do agree with. if we could figure out what we want out of/with our
>> engagement in european union politics we need to coordinate that. i don't
>> think that non-european parties need to care about that, however. it's good
>> for europeans to have informed views on fta:s and is probably good to get
>> external information for that (also i would please like to sort out this
>> entire northern african telecommunications situation - i want to know what
>> france telecom owns and what it doesn't own, also i once met this
>> palestinian lawyer who talked a lot about "secondary" blocking of
>> information for occupied areas, ref sahara occidental and gaza/westbank, and
>> how eu support or non-trade snactins against countries who engage in that
>> behaviour might be contrary to some e trade agreement provisions that they
>> have with the blockers).
>>
>>
>>  - We can safe resources on a joint scientific bureau
>> - NGO's want a single contact point, not a chat with all 50+ parties ( PPI
>> can relay 98% of the same data, and relay the other 2% )
>>
>>
>> this is also true. it is a serious bitch to keep in touch with x number of
>> different actors, and if anyone wants media etc on for example european
>> issues it really really helps if european parties have a joint contact
>> person. i guess this will be rick falkvinge now that he is moving on the
>> european coordination, so perhaps we can rally behind him. also, i guess,
>> lobby him for your national peculiarities :-)
>>
>> /a
>>
>>  - We can get subsidies
>>
>> Personally, if no party objects, i'd like to see one PPI conference location
>> per continent.
>> And all sites having beamers with the other sites onscreen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hmm, this turned into slightly more of an essay than I was planning but
>> never mind - just a few thoughts on the matters. Finally, I hope
>> everyone had a good new year.
>>
>> -Will
>> [Former PPI Coreteam member]
>>
>>
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