[pp.int.general] Agora Voting System for a Liquid Democracy at FOSDEM

[Kenneth Peiruza]

We had quite a bit debate about this in Pirata.cat, and we did even
replied to the journalists.

In the beginning, you are only a slice in the parliament, but your work
there is a live-demo of what would happen if all the decisions were made
by direct/liquid democracy.

Election after election you will win more voters, willing to get more
real democracy, and the simple statistical analysis of the difference of
vote between you and the rest of the parliament will make it even more
clear that the other parties don't defend your interests.

In 20 years you'll be the big fish in the parliament, and then you can
change the constitution to be a state driven by direct/liquid democracy.

So, in the meantime it's about citizen participation and making a lot of
pedagogy, plus infecting other parties with your revolutionary thoughts :D


Regards,

Kenneth

On 20/01/11 00:50, Boris Turovskiy wrote:
> Hi Eduardo,
>> Exactly -  except you would need a law to accept robots in parliament
>> first ;-) PDI's idea is: we need to change no law to make direct
>> democracy start to happen in Spain. We need people to vote us, though.
> Actually, I can pinpoint the logical flaw in your construction (and the
> reason why it both doesn't bring direct democracy any closer and has
> little chance of success in a parliamentary system): While it is
> reasonable to assume that a parliament (or any other elected body) in
> its entirety should represent the citizens' opinion, this is wrong with
> respect to sub-entities of the parliament (say, parties). The
> representation of the people by the parliament is based on the fact that
> there are different interests present in a society, and that the bearers
> of those interests may be in conflict with one another; the vox populi
> is produced when representatives of all sides (with corresponding
> weights) sit in parliament and have to balance the interests of their
> respective voters.
> Now, that system could possibly be replaced by direct democracy as a
> whole, but not at the level of a single party, because in this case, the
> party represents literally nobody. If I am against internet censorship,
> or ACTA, or anything else and I have a vote, I want that vote to go to
> someone of whom I can be sure that he's on my side. There are enough
> forces (and parties) who are not on my side, I'm not going to elect
> anyone who'll possibly strengthen them even more.
> 
> Best regards,
> Boris
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