[pp.int.general] Agora Voting System for a Liquid Democracy at FOSDEM

Boris Turovskiy tourovski at gmail.com
Thu Jan 20 01:25:11 CET 2011


Hi Kenneth,

> In the beginning, you are only a slice in the parliament, but your work
> there is a live-demo of what would happen if all the decisions were made
> by direct/liquid democracy.
That's the point I don't see happening, as it'll be more a live-demo of
a party being elected for certain policy positions and doing the
opposite (at least part of the time) - I can't see that suiting the
voters very well...

> Election after election you will win more voters, willing to get more
> real democracy, and the simple statistical analysis of the difference of
> vote between you and the rest of the parliament will make it even more
> clear that the other parties don't defend your interests.
"Your"? (hypothetic now) The Conservatives mostly defend the interests
of Conservative voters (e.g. try to censor the internet and kick out all
immigrants). The socialists defend the interests of their voters (e.g.
fight for higher social security). With the PDI the only thing you can
be sure of that you have a shot at influencing their votes at every step
- but if the voter herself _does_ already have positions and priorities,
why take such a risk?

Maybe I don't see something big or am too engrossed in the current
parliamentary system, as arguments like yours come regularly from Liquid
Democracy advocates in the German Pirate Party, too - but I can't see a
party having any success with this chameleon approach.

Best regards,
Boris


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