[pp.int.general] First 'official' US party

[Justus Römeth]

In that sense I think PPDE is working better on the regional level (ie 
Bundesländer) than on the federal/national level.

It has to do with flamewars being harder to maintain if you meet in 
person, and that it is easier in Germany to get elected on a local level 
than any other level. Due to Germany's federal structure our pirate 
party also has subdivisions on the regional (pirate party of Berlin, 
Pirate party of Bavaria, pirate party of Lower Saxony etc.) and the 
local (pirate party of Munich, pirate party of Cologne, etc.) level.

So what is happening in MA is probably the way to go.

On 10.03.11 16:07, Pirat at LennStar.de wrote:
> I don't think that we in DE are working that well ;)
> The biggest problem was the amazing increase during the middle/end 2009.
> That was also reason for an amazing number of problems we are not
> finished digesting.
>
> My advise from these experiences is: begin small, if possible, work
> local, get a team together (face to face if possible!) and *then*, after
> you are working, spread. Even if it takes a year to this point. It's
> definitly more fun and less stress, and a big increase as ours takes at
> least a year to work, too. (Partly because of german Party laws
> admittedly. I suspect there are constitutions out there with less words ;))
>
> The Internet is fine and helps a lot in organizing, but nothing is
> better then face to face. You need that as a base on which the internet
> can play its strong points.
>
> LennStar
>
>
> Am 10.03.2011 14:34, schrieb Kenneth Peiruza:
>> IMO, small-scaled Pirate Parties are easier to build and to grow up ( if
>> the  law let's you register a party easily).
>>
>> PP-SE was the ignition spark, in a mid-small populated country (by
>> European standards), after that beginning, we only have one Pirate Party
>> referent in a big country: PP-DE, which works amazingly well. There has
>> been no other strongly rooted pirate party in any other big country.
>>
>> On the other hand, PP-CZ and PP-CH do even have representatives, and
>> they are working really fine, with lesser infrastructure than PP-SE/DE
>> and PP-Austria and Finland do also have an amazing social rooting. So,
>> Pirate Parties from small countries are usually more successful.
>>
>> Most members of PP-ES in Catalonia chosen this strategy last summer.
>> Creating a party in Spain just requires 3 people, around 180 € and some
>> weeks waiting. We became official last 4th of October.
>>
>> In 6 months PP-Cat achieved 70 members per million (MPM), whilst we had
>> only 4 MPM before (in 4 years).
>>
>> Despite the fact that we belong to the Internet age, probably we do
>> still organize better in front of a tea/beer.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenneth Peiruza
>>
>> On 10/03/11 00:12, Jay Emerson wrote:
>>> Yeah, because I advised them not to join and instead just focus on their
>>> state party.  Although that was his plan to begin with because well, look at
>>> USPP's meetings.
>>>
>>> So all credit to O'Keefe on this.
>>>
>>> State Party focus seems the best way to go. Woot!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jay Emerson
>>> Administrative Officer
>>> Pirate Party of New York
>>> On Mar 9, 2011 6:05 PM, "Andrew Norton"<ktetch at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> I should have pointed this out here when I was made aware of it at the
>>> start of the month, but with one thing and another, it slipped my mind.
>>>
>>> The US has it's first officially recognized Pirate Party, int he
>>> Commonwealth of Massachusetts. As a side note, it's not a state party
>>> recognised by, or affiliated with (at the present time), the USPP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/07/massachusetts-voters-can-now-register-as-pirates/
>>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com/2011/03/uss-first-pirate-party.html
>>> http://torrentfreak.com/mass-registered-pirate-party-110304/
>>>
>>>
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