[pp.int.general] Media and record labels are in the same fucked up boat

[Victor Love]

Hi Brendan. You are right, even though that was just a way to cut it short.
For example on our website manifesto there is nothing like that. Pro-piracy
is just to mean we believe file sharing is not an issue but a value. However
Music magazines should be interested and promote new systems for music
instead of censoring them cause they clash with their profits.

2011/3/15 Brendan Molloy <brendanmolloy at pirateparty.org.au>

> Perhaps you need to market yourself a little better. Say you support "file
> sharing culture" and you reject the concept of 'intellectual property', and
> run from there. Or at least, instead of saying "pro-piracy", say "a model
> that is directly supported and enhanced by file sharing". It's all about the
> delivery.
>
> On 15 March 2011 20:45, Victor Love <info at victorlove.com> wrote:
>
>> Below you have a clear example about how media and music industry is
>> totally fucked up.
>> They refused to publish a news about an alternative model for music cause
>> it states "pro-piracy". Something you'd not expect by an independent
>> journalist.
>>
>> Reasons IMO (by direct experience in this businness since '98):
>> 1) they fear to lose their pre-scheduled articles, interviews etc they
>> usually sell in change of advertisements bought by labels
>> 2) they know that piracy is making useless their role of "suggesting"
>> music simply cause people don't give a fuck about reviews when they can
>> listen to it directly on the web
>> 3) There are some magazines that are run directly by record labels
>> 4) They just can't realize the entire world is changing around them and
>> there's a new generation of pirates that is gonna take over very soon ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Victor
>> Dope Stars Inc.
>> www.dopestarsinc.com
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Side-Line Magazine <info at side-line.com>
>> Date: 2011/3/14
>> Subject: Re: Pro-Piracy model for music
>> To: Victor Love <dopestarsincmail at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This news will not be included on Side-Line for the following reason:
>> you called it 'pro piracy'.
>>
>> No offense, have fun!
>>
>> Bernard
>> Chief Editor
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Victor Love <dopestarsincmail at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > News press - Pro-Piracy model for music
>> > We have released a pro-piracy model for music and getting a great
>> feedback
>> > already from Pirate Parties (France, Switzerland, Germany & Sweden so
>> far).
>> > Below you can find a short summary and links for full story translated
>> in 11
>> > languages.
>> > Please send your feedback and feel free to spread and forward.
>> > Full story and details our website:  http://www.dopestarsinc.com
>> > Article/Interview with NZZ.CH <http://nzz.ch/> - Most influent National
>> Newspaper in
>> > Switzerland
>> >
>> http://www.nzz.ch/magazin/digital/victor_love_dope_stars_inc_1.9849991.html
>>  (Deutsch)
>> >
>> > Article/Interview with Pirate Party CH:
>> >
>> http://www.denissimonet.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Interview-DSI1.pdf
>>  (English)
>> >
>> http://www.denissimonet.ch/2011/03/10/die-leere-cd-als-geschaftsmodell-der-zukunft
>>  (Deutsch)
>> > Pro Piracy Model summary
>> > Short summary of our pro-piracy model: Ultrawired will be distributed
>> with a
>> > pro-piracy model, available for FREE download (mp3, wav, ISO) and spread
>> > over every network (website, social, youtube, torrent, rapishare). NO
>> Record
>> > label has been involved=everything is produced with band's direct
>> effort. We
>> > let the fans decide how to support us among multiple options. 1st level:
>> > donations, flattr, bitcoins, pay with a tweet, share, promote, youtip.
>> 2nd
>> > level: purchasing cds and merchandise directly from the band online. We
>> > provide also a low cost ed. called D.I.Y. edition with full artwork but
>> the
>> > cd inside is empty. Once released the fan can download the album and
>> burn
>> > it, still keeping the original packaging and cdlay graphics. Reducing
>> costs
>> > the cd is sold at 4€ + shipping. 3rd level: the Ketaware program. Fans
>> can
>> > buy stocks of cds to redistribute them. Doing so they get a fair share
>> (from
>> > 1.5€ up to 4.7€) & earn special points to get free backstage access,
>> > customized merch and more. More details on our website.
>> > Full model details available in 11 languages:
>> > English - http://piratepad.net/MxBAUNWe9d
>> > Russian - http://piratepad.net/4K65DtWzMK
>> > Italiano - http://piratepad.net/ou8bZCuZus
>> > Español - http://piratepad.net/OCQzc7Y3QZ
>> > Portuguese - http://piratepad.net/RmA2HeEWp3
>> > French - http://piratepad.net/RX0XE15Tkr
>> > Deutsch - http://piratepad.net/BOzxDkJkbu
>> > Slovak - http://piratepad.net/OtcWJgPWgh
>> > Hungarian - http://piratepad.net/gssq3gO5uU
>> > Polish - http://piratepad.net/FfvL7mIqyd
>> > Japanese - http://piratepad.net/SbNP5POaiK
>> >
>> > Links
>> > Website: http://www.dopestarsinc.com
>> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/dopestarsinc
>> > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dopestarsinc
>> > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/dopestarsinc
>> > Flattr:
>> https://flattr.com/thing/132569/Dope-Stars-Inc-Ultrawired-Pirate-Ketaware-for-the-TLC-generation
>> >
>> >
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>
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> Regards,
> Brendan Molloy
> Pirate Party Australia
>
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