[pp.int.general] PPI Open Space Conference Friedrichshafen

Ikke Ikke at piratenpartij.nl
Wed Mar 23 04:03:43 CET 2011


Oh blame me for that opening line. Thought it was funny, and the document
not up for general circulation in its present form. Also take a chill pill
and give us something better to work with than these half complete notes so
we can actually overview somewhat accurately what progress and on what
issues has been made at the conference - then again I bet you dont have
those. 

We're not spitting in the face of the participants, since when is carefully
and thoroughly going over what people have done a sign of disrespect? But I
guess it would take a real politician to draw his personal crying session
into a collective day of mourning.

So why dont you stop being a crybaby and get this evaluation done,
considering you are apparently the main organiser. Here's what would be
useful after the conclusion of an conference: a concise list of all that
has been discussed, decided, and what groups are formed with what purpose,
and how to reach them, what issues were unresolved, etc. In short, a
rapport like the one we're making cause you cant be bothered.

Oh this wont blow over till you heard it, so here is: terrific job on the
conference, truly terrific. Need a pat on the back to? Maybe some gentle
scratching behind the ears? Do you pur?

On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:13:58 +0100, Gregory Engels
<Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de> wrote:
> Dear Samir,
> 
> you have showed clearly your disdain for the creative work the  
> participants
> of the Open Space have done.
> 
> The sentence that you begin your document with:
> 
> "Open conferences, the cafe au lait under the conferences as far as  
> the ratio between conference and breaks are concerned. Moreover, each  
> participant gets to intellectually masturbate his share of milk. If  
> you wish to swallow it down:"
> 
> (and then link to the results document of the Open Space) - I take  
> this, as the main organizer
> of the Conference and the Open Space part of it, as a personal insult.  
> But please, stop
> spiting in the face of the participants that had enjoyed the process,  
> and have produced
> a lot of documented result.
> 
> Instead you should concentrate of seting of new undertakings and  
> projects out of this
> working groups, rather then digging into and retyping the brain-dump  
> results of the
> working sessions of the Open Space.
> 
> having said this, cause it really have hurt me.
> 
> 
> Gregory Engels
> International Coordinator
> Pirate Party of Germany
> 
> mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
> skype:gregory.engels
> jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23.03.2011, at 02:56, Samir Allioui wrote:
> 
>> I started digesting the data already as you can see here
>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rFKrofuHs6oRZG-IfJ5GH5YcNQ5DKXtKSSsVo2uXc_I/edit?hl=en&authkey=CIG3-b0M
>>
>> #
>>
>> Feel free to add, or copy to the wiki.
>>
>> /signed
>>
>> Samir.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Gregory Engels
>> <Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de
>> > wrote:
>> Dear Pirates,
>>
>> now as we all have got home and the new board was elected and have  
>> started working,
>>
>> The open space conference has been a success judjed by the gross of  
>> the evaluation that has been returned.
>>
>> However, I must apologies, that the intended format of the Open  
>> Space conference was not conducted to the
>> end in the way it was planned, mostly due to the schedule changes on  
>> sunday because of the late start and
>> the additional voting blocks drawing everyones attention.
>>
>> In that last phase (that mostly went unnoticed) projects had to be  
>> kicked of out of the open space rounds
>> that were held during the first day.
>>
>> please see the documentation of the working goups [1]
>>
>> We have set up a wiki page that has documented, what actualy have  
>> started (5 Projects),
>> but I would like to invite everyone who was at the conference (and  
>> others too) to a meeting
>> in two weeks time, on Saturday April, 9th 20h CET by using the PPI  
>> SIP telko room [3] to
>> introduce the projects that had been started and to kick off new ones.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>>
https://www.mypirates.net/assets/894/PPI%20OpenSpace%202011%20Friedrichshafen%20Documentation.pdf
>> [2]
>> http://int.piratenpartei.de/PPI_Conference_2011/OpenSpace-Documentation
>> [3] http://int.piratenpartei.de/Telco_How-To
>>
>> sincerly yours,
>>
>> Gregory Engels
>> International Coordinator
>> Pirate Party of Germany
>>
>> mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
>> skype:gregory.engels
>> jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>>
>>
>>


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