[pp.int.general] [Pp-leaders.discussion] EU: ESM-treaty

Sebastian Nerz basti at tirsales.de
Sun Nov 6 09:05:23 CET 2011

 On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:09:49 +0200, Jouni Snellman wrote:
> The EFSF is a stupid idea. The EU is a good one, but then again, it 
> is
> based on the ideas of freedom and democracy.

 I am not sure about the EFSF. But: I agree that a European Union based
 on democracy and freedom would be a good idea. It's a pitty that the EU
 is not.
 The talks about the EFSF have shown that the EU does not care one Cent
 about democracy.



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