[pp.int.general] About the situation in Spain

[Kenneth Peiruza]

If you are still a member, I can't understand why you don't have right
to voice and vote ....

This "not all members have right to vote in PP-ES" it's a bit shy...
(the famous "census" stuff).


Regards,

Kenneth

Al 04/04/12 12:51, En/na David Arcos ha escrit:
> Hi,
>
> I will just confirm that this voting exists.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Choms <choms at botmania.net
> <mailto:choms at botmania.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I've just wanted to add that, due this email, and other fake
>     accusations, PP-ES is voting to expel me.
>
>     You can read the full list of accusations and my response to all
>     them (sorry, it's in spanish) here: http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE
>
>     The ballot is exactly the same but without my responses, and I
>     have no right on reply nor vote
>
>     Regards
>
>
>     El 23 de marzo de 2012 15:14, Choms <choms at botmania.net
>     <mailto:choms at botmania.net>> escribió:
>
>         This is a short report about the situation on PP-ES:
>
>         Our CoA have been "voting" a resolution about the former board
>         and several infractions they did for four weeks. Those
>         infractions include that the former secretary and the former
>         CTO kidnapped the former treasurer mail account, the party's
>         paypal account and even deleted all secretary account emails,
>         which were proof of an illegal drop of aprox 450 affiliates. 
>
>         Now all our CoA have been resigned, and there are new illegal
>         CoA elections who break 3 entire articles of our statutes
>         (art. 19.c, 13.c, and 20.b). The former secretary who is
>         charged of all I've mentioned above is postulated as CoA
>         president. One of our affiliated just disputed this election
>         based on above articles plus 7.4 and 8.2, and solicited the
>         convocation of a new extraordinary assembly of the party.
>
>         Have been raised a motion of censure against Daniel Riaño,
>         actual president of Madrid territorial (and member of the
>         party's board) because several "strong language" against other
>         members of the party, members of the Madrid board and members
>         and work of the CoA. After that, he even showed power abuse on
>         the last Madrid assembly, using him status as president to
>         take back some decisions he didn't wanted, using a law that
>         himself broke when he got the charge (Administrative Procedure
>         Act, which doesn't allow to set board members at show of hands
>         which is the way he get the charge with 7 in favor and 4
>         against it, of 60's Madrid's members). After that he even
>         refused on an aggressive manner to end the assembly just to
>         say "I am the president and nothing gets up until I tell"
>         (I've tried to be as accurate as possible on the translation)
>         in front of 6 people.
>
>         For this motion of censure the party is using a tool made by
>         the former CTO who helped the former secretary on all (and
>         more things) I've mentioned on first point. This tool have a
>         little inconvenient, for it's creator and some members of the
>         party nothing important, that is that any administrator can
>         vote as any affiliate, all ballots are served on plain text
>         via administrator's interface. IMHO this is a serious security
>         issue, any admin can vote as any affiliate and there is no way
>         to check what voted who (obviously), and even change the
>         ballots order to get people voting one option while they think
>         they are voting another. The creator of this tool, who refuses
>         to fix the bug, justified telling me that "you can also change
>         the results on the DB, it's more easy". Several admins are
>         implicated directly on what is voting. It's planned to use
>         this tool to vote the new CoA.
>
>         Actual secretary, against my advice, deleted several proofs of
>         Data Protection Act violation, in response to that I told him
>         that was negligent (concretely I told him that he was crazy
>         for deleting that), and now he used that email to justify my
>         expulsion as actual CTO of PP-ES, removing my access and
>         making it impossible to retrieve any data or proof of law
>         violation, data which I was giving to the (now former) CoA
>         (always respecting all points included on Spanish Data
>         Protection Act) to allow them to investigate all
>         irregularities and penal illegalities.
>
>         This is, broadly, the situation of PP-ES, it can be defined
>         (from an affiliate point of view) as impotence and frustration
>         in face of the situation.
>
>         Best Regards,
>         Choms.
>
>
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