[pp.int.general] About the situation in Spain

[Rock Neurotiko]

Choms, are you a member? (I'm not gonna answer to not break the law).

Anyway, that e-mail was sended all the lists he wanted, and was published,
the defense were made.

2012/4/4 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>

>  If you are still a member, I can't understand why you don't have right to
> voice and vote ....
>
> This "not all members have right to vote in PP-ES" it's a bit shy... (the
> famous "census" stuff).
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> Al 04/04/12 12:51, En/na David Arcos ha escrit:
>
> Hi,
>
> I will just confirm that this voting exists.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Choms <choms at botmania.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just wanted to add that, due this email, and other fake accusations,
>> PP-ES is voting to expel me.
>>
>> You can read the full list of accusations and my response to all them
>> (sorry, it's in spanish) here: http://pastebin.com/KGmgy0dE
>>
>> The ballot is exactly the same but without my responses, and I have no
>> right on reply nor vote
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> El 23 de marzo de 2012 15:14, Choms <choms at botmania.net> escribió:
>>
>>  This is a short report about the situation on PP-ES:
>>> Our CoA have been "voting" a resolution about the former board and
>>> several infractions they did for four weeks. Those infractions include that
>>> the former secretary and the former CTO kidnapped the former treasurer mail
>>> account, the party's paypal account and even deleted all secretary account
>>> emails, which were proof of an illegal drop of aprox 450 affiliates.
>>>
>>>  Now all our CoA have been resigned, and there are new illegal CoA
>>> elections who break 3 entire articles of our statutes (art. 19.c, 13.c, and
>>> 20.b). The former secretary who is charged of all I've mentioned above is
>>> postulated as CoA president. One of our affiliated just disputed this
>>> election based on above articles plus 7.4 and 8.2, and solicited the
>>> convocation of a new extraordinary assembly of the party.
>>>
>>>  Have been raised a motion of censure against Daniel Riaño, actual
>>> president of Madrid territorial (and member of the party's board) because
>>> several "strong language" against other members of the party, members of
>>> the Madrid board and members and work of the CoA. After that, he even
>>> showed power abuse on the last Madrid assembly, using him status as
>>> president to take back some decisions he didn't wanted, using a law that
>>> himself broke when he got the charge (Administrative Procedure Act, which
>>> doesn't allow to set board members at show of hands which is the way he get
>>> the charge with 7 in favor and 4 against it, of 60's Madrid's members).
>>> After that he even refused on an aggressive manner to end the assembly just
>>> to say "I am the president and nothing gets up until I tell" (I've tried to
>>> be as accurate as possible on the translation) in front of 6 people.
>>>
>>>  For this motion of censure the party is using a tool made by the
>>> former CTO who helped the former secretary on all (and more things) I've
>>> mentioned on first point. This tool have a little inconvenient, for it's
>>> creator and some members of the party nothing important, that is that any
>>> administrator can vote as any affiliate, all ballots are served on plain
>>> text via administrator's interface. IMHO this is a serious security issue,
>>> any admin can vote as any affiliate and there is no way to check what voted
>>> who (obviously), and even change the ballots order to get people voting one
>>> option while they think they are voting another. The creator of this tool,
>>> who refuses to fix the bug, justified telling me that "you can also change
>>> the results on the DB, it's more easy". Several admins are implicated
>>> directly on what is voting. It's planned to use this tool to vote the new
>>> CoA.
>>>
>>>  Actual secretary, against my advice, deleted several proofs of Data
>>> Protection Act violation, in response to that I told him that was negligent
>>> (concretely I told him that he was crazy for deleting that), and now he
>>> used that email to justify my expulsion as actual CTO of PP-ES, removing my
>>> access and making it impossible to retrieve any data or proof of law
>>> violation, data which I was giving to the (now former) CoA (always
>>> respecting all points included on Spanish Data Protection Act) to allow
>>> them to investigate all irregularities and penal illegalities.
>>>
>>>  This is, broadly, the situation of PP-ES, it can be defined (from an
>>> affiliate point of view) as impotence and frustration in face of the
>>> situation.
>>>
>>>  Best Regards,
>>> Choms.
>>>
>>
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Miguel García Lafuente - Rock Neurotiko
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