[pp.int.general] R: PP IT and Its Non-Democratic Organization

[Jaromil]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, Carlito wrote:

> Verba Volant Scripta Manent
> Carlito

for the record, Carlito has been democratically expelled from the PP-IT
for subscription fraud. He was the worst enemy  of the Permanent
Assembly concept which we adopted in the Constitution of the PP-IT on
December 2011, he often used ad-personam attacks and lies. The worst I
can recall is seeing Carlito using "his stage students" to enter the
party, work for his agenda and delegate votes to him.  However... this
was not the topic, I guess we'll have to live with his petulant voice,
pity it has never been constructive nor providing reliable criticism.

OTOH I appreciate John's words in this thread. All these people that are
criticizing the Permanent Assembly of the PP-IT are basically unable to
face being outvoted by a democratic assembly, unable to accept different
opinions, unable to find a common language with other peers.. still as
John points out, the best such a stubborn Pirate could do is go and
create something new and wonderful, but instead... they denigrate.

But Carlito is old story for the PP-IT and PP-CH. Now the point is
that some people with serious ties to neo-fascist groups are trying to
depict themselves as the Italian Pirate Party, that's where this thread
started.

Thanks to others for pointing out the Uppsala declaration and more
suggestions, I'm sure a lot of the previous PP-Intl literature will be
useful to us to face this new treath.

For the record, some Italian press covered the facts knowing the
background of the Pirate Party and pinpointing the neo-nazi take-over:

http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2012/12/21/scilipoti-si-aggancia-ai-pirati-ma-sono-quelli-di-destra-e-saranno-espulsi_n_2345088.html

http://pubblicogiornale.it/politica/fascisti-illuminati-marziani-e-scilipoti-si-travestono-da-pirati/

ciao

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