[pp.int.general] R: R: PP IT and Its Non-Democratic Organization

Carlito carlito at subvertising.org
Sat Dec 22 20:28:21 CET 2012


Da: Jaromil

> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, Carlito wrote:
> 
>> Verba Volant Scripta Manent
>> Carlito
> 
> for the record, Carlito has been democratically expelled from the PP-IT
for
> subscription fraud. 

Hi Jaromil,

Please don't make it a personal question as always. 
I can only say that I didn't make any fraud and it's my word against yours. 
Who's the liar? 
So stop. No one can have any evidence here on this matter.

Can you confirm this numbers provided by lilo in one of the last issues
voted in the "Democratic" Permanent Assembly of the PP IT?
Yes: 38 (79%) . Abstention: 16 . No: 10 (21%) . Approved
If yes, the question is: 
Can you consider the Italian Pirate Party a democratic structure if 16
people against 15 can decide the expulsion of a member without bringing any
evidence of "frauds"?

I'm ready to discuss about this interesting issue without any personalisms
because I'm afraid it's the same question happened with these new case: the
so-called "fascists" of the Movimento Pirata.
Probably they are not fascists.
They are just your opponents.
You expulse your opponents.
So IMHO PP IT doesn't have a democratic structure and can't ask help to the
PP Int mailing list. 

Best,

Carlito 



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