[pp.int.general] Help the protests this Saturday

Fri Feb 10 00:07:52 CET 2012

The Socialist group in European Parliament will not vote for ACTA in June

"The Party of European Socialists (PES) has today adopted a text which
condemns the democratic shortcomings of the ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade
Agreement) and warns against its potential threat to the fundamental rights
of the citizens. The text calls the agreement; “wrong in both content and
process”."

http://www.pes.org/fr/news/acta-wrong-both-content-and-process-says-pes-strongly-worded-declaration

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>   1. About Black March (Pat Maechler aka Valio)
>   2. International Liberty Agreement (Christian Hautmann)
>   3. Re: International Liberty Agreement (Dario)
>   4. Re: International Liberty Agreement (Pirat at LennStar.de)
>   5. Re: International Liberty Agreement (Justus R?meth)
>   6. Help the protests this Saturday - start of US     participation
>      (Sebastian Radtke)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:31:32 +0100
> From: Pat Maechler aka Valio <pirate at valio.ch>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> Subject: [pp.int.general] About Black March
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> Lately I've seen a number of calls to action for "Black March" whose
> participants are urged not to acquire any kind of artistic works
> during March 2012 [1].
> The idea behind it is to deny profits to the "content industry" in
> order to stop them from their heavy loobying activities.
>
> In it's current form I would strongly advise against participating or
> continue spreading it!
> I urge all pirates to participate solely with a heavily sophisticated
> version of this action or otherwise to publicly distance themselves
> from it.
>
> In the current form it's one of the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
> I appreciate the intention, but unforntunately that will likely not
> matter: Likely mass media will display those participating to be
> against art or artists in general.
> Thus, those who support it (or are jus even just getting linked to it)
> will be placed close to the most inhumane regimes known in the history
> of mankind.
>
> To propose an alternative: It would be way better and more
> sophisticated to program and distribute programs that warn users of
> artistic works, that have beem
> which are marketed by corporations which use said lobbying, such as
> the "big 6" [3]. This has been has already been done for SOPA / PIPA,
> making, so it is it possible [2a][2b].
>
> I write this now, as there seems to be more and more supporter of this
> call to action in it's unsophisticated, poulistic and dangerous
> version
> I have been personally supporting artists and programmers for years
> that work on their own an not via the "content industry"; I will
> continue to so in March as well.
> >From my perspective one of the aim of the pirate movement is the
> liberation of art from copyright, but it has never been the liberation
> of the world from art.
> However the latter one is a common accusation by opponents of the
> pirate movement.
> If this action is carried out in the current form without clearly
> communicating *in advance* that would be solely targeted at the
> "content industry", but not artists it will be used as an argument
> against you in mass media.
>
> This is solely my personal opinion. It is not an official
> communication as part of any of my current mandates.
>
> Sidenote: I would like to take the opportunity to advertise the
> project political javascript. [5]
>
> [1] http://black-march.com/
> [2a]
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/01/09/android-barcode-scanner-app-detects-if-a-products-maker-supports-sopa/
> [2b] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/boycott-plus/
> [3] http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main
> [4] http://gun.io/blog/progressjs-political-javascript/
>
> -pat
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:58:35 +0100
> From: "Christian Hautmann" <C.Hautmann at gmx.net>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: [pp.int.general] International Liberty Agreement
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> Hi Pirates International,
>
> In times of ACTA and SOPA it becomes obviously nessecary to discuss
> Counter-Agreements which represent the interest of the common towards
> industrial lobbys. The idea is to initiate a multinational agreement,
> called "international liberty agreement".
>
> The Intention is to set minimal standards for civil liberties, especially
> but not exclusively in digital networks. The negotiations will be carried
> out publicly from the beginning. The civil societies and interested
> organisations will be included into the discussion by the negotiating
> nations.
>
> You can find More about ILA and the Intention on this URL:
> https://piratenpad.de/p/ILA-en
>
> So whats my purpose ?
>
> 1.
> The idea aroused and I like it. So the idea has to be seeded in different
> Nations.
>
> 2.
> If there should be some people who are interested in negotiating ILA, the
> PPI might be the right place to start with.
>
> Have fun reading the Pad!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian Hautmann
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:01:51 +0100
> From: Dario <i at dario.im>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] International Liberty Agreement
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> 2012/2/9 Christian Hautmann <C.Hautmann at gmx.net>:
> > Hi Pirates International,
> >
> > In times of ACTA and SOPA it becomes obviously nessecary to discuss
> Counter-Agreements which represent the interest of the common towards
> industrial lobbys. The idea is to initiate a multinational agreement,
> called "international liberty agreement".
> >
> > The Intention is to set minimal standards for civil liberties,
> especially but not exclusively in digital networks. The negotiations will
> be carried out publicly from the beginning. The civil societies and
> interested organisations will be included into the discussion by the
> negotiating nations.
> >
> > You can find More about ILA and the Intention on this URL:
> https://piratenpad.de/p/ILA-en
> >
>
> How this relate to the Free Internet Act? http://www.reddit.com/r/fia
> Probably there is a good chance for synergies :)
>
> This is far better than demonstrations, IMHO.
>
> --
> Dario Casta??
> http://www.dario.im?|?http://twitter.com/im_dario
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:50:04 +0100
> From: "Pirat at LennStar.de" <pirat at lennstar.de>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] International Liberty Agreement
> Message-ID: <4F33EB2C.1070101 at lennstar.de>
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>
> You should google for the olden' times "User's Bill of Rights" for a
> starter.
>
> LennStar
>
> Am 09.02.2012 15:58, schrieb Christian Hautmann:
> > Hi Pirates International,
> >
> > In times of ACTA and SOPA it becomes obviously nessecary to discuss
> Counter-Agreements which represent the interest of the common towards
> industrial lobbys. The idea is to initiate a multinational agreement,
> called "international liberty agreement".
> >
> > The Intention is to set minimal standards for civil liberties,
> especially but not exclusively in digital networks. The negotiations will
> be carried out publicly from the beginning. The civil societies and
> interested organisations will be included into the discussion by the
> negotiating nations.
> >
> > You can find More about ILA and the Intention on this URL:
> https://piratenpad.de/p/ILA-en
> >
> > So whats my purpose ?
> >
> > 1.
> > The idea aroused and I like it. So the idea has to be seeded in
> different Nations.
> >
> > 2.
> > If there should be some people who are interested in negotiating ILA,
> the PPI might be the right place to start with.
> >
> > Have fun reading the Pad!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Christian Hautmann
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:36:23 +0100
> From: Justus R?meth <squig at dfpx.de>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>        <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] International Liberty Agreement
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>
> I think it is much better to support the European Green's proposal to
> reform copyright in Europe (which has been drafted by the Swedish PP,
> basically).
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de <pirat at lennstar.de>
> wrote:
>
> > You should google for the olden' times "User's Bill of Rights" for a
> > starter.
> >
> > LennStar
> >
> > Am 09.02.2012 15:58, schrieb Christian Hautmann:
> > > Hi Pirates International,
> > >
> > > In times of ACTA and SOPA it becomes obviously nessecary to discuss
> > Counter-Agreements which represent the interest of the common towards
> > industrial lobbys. The idea is to initiate a multinational agreement,
> > called "international liberty agreement".
> > >
> > > The Intention is to set minimal standards for civil liberties,
> > especially but not exclusively in digital networks. The negotiations will
> > be carried out publicly from the beginning. The civil societies and
> > interested organisations will be included into the discussion by the
> > negotiating nations.
> > >
> > > You can find More about ILA and the Intention on this URL:
> > https://piratenpad.de/p/ILA-en
> > >
> > > So whats my purpose ?
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > The idea aroused and I like it. So the idea has to be seeded in
> > different Nations.
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > If there should be some people who are interested in negotiating ILA,
> > the PPI might be the right place to start with.
> > >
> > > Have fun reading the Pad!
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Christian Hautmann
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> > >
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> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:08:04 +0100
> From: Sebastian Radtke <theorigin79 at googlemail.com>
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> Subject: [pp.int.general] Help the protests this Saturday - start of
>        US      participation
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> Hi everyone,
>
> as mentioned before, today my friends from SOPASTRIKE.COM und
> http://americancensorship.org/ <http://AMERICANCENCORSHIP.ORG>, who fight
> under the banner of "Fight for the Future", launched their own anti-ACTA
> website.
>
> You can follow their twitter account on
> https://twitter.com/#!/fightfortheftr or use different scipts/templates,
> which can be implemented on websites: http://killacta.org/
>
> There is a linked email pedition you can sign in and we linked them to our
> protest wiki: (http://wiki.stoppacta-protest.info/Support) also.
>
> Their information email to the launch is attached at the bottom.
>
> Keep fighting!
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian Radtke
> Pirate Party
> International Coordinator of ACTA PROTEST
>
> http://www.stoppacta-protest.info
> info at stoppacta-protest.info
> @stopp_acta
>
> ----
> http://theorigin.de
> theorigin at gmx.de
> @theorigin79
>
> *
> MAIL FROM FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE*:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Fight For The Future <info at fightforthefuture.org>
> Date: 2012/2/9
> Subject: Help the protests this Saturday
> To: TheOrigin <theorigin at gmx.de>
>
>
> **
>
> Hi--
>
> Together, we beat SOPA in a huge victory for internet freedom.  But this
> Saturday, internet freedom protests are breaking out in over 200 cities
> across Europe.  Why?
>
> *Because the companies behind SOPA are using international trade agreements
> as a backdoor to pass SOPA-style
> laws*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe3/1245569059/VEsH/
> >
>
> SOPA's supporters are pushing two agreements: ACTA and TPP1.  ACTA would
> criminalize users, encourage internet providers to spy on you, and make it
> easier for media companies to sue sites out of existence and jail their
> founders.  Sound familiar?*  *That's right, ACTA is from the same playbook
> as SOPA, but global.  Plus it didn't even have to pass through Congress2.
>
> TPP goes even farther than ACTA, and the process has been even more
> secretive and corrupt.  Last weekend (we wish this was a joke) *trade
> negotiators partied with MPAA (pro-SOPA) lobbyists before secret
> negotiations in a Hollywood hotel, while public interest groups were barred
> from meeting in the same building.*3
>
> Trade agreements are a gaping loophole, a secretive backdoor track
> that--even though it creates new laws--is miles removed from
> democracy.  Trade negotiators are unelected and unaccountable, so these
> agreements have been *very* hard for internet rights groups to stop.
>
> But now the tide is turning.  Fueled by the movement to stop SOPA,
> anti-ACTA protests are breaking out across the EU, which hasn't ratified
> ACTA.  *The protests are having an impact: leaders in Poland, the Czech
> Republic, and Slovakia have backtracked on ACTA.*4  *Now a massive round of
> street protests in over 200 cities is planned for this Saturday February
> 11th.*
>
> We're planning an online protest this Saturday to support the protests in
> the streets.  Why?  Because together we can drive millions of emails to key
> decision makers--and start tipping the scales like we did on SOPA.
>
> *Can you take part?  Click here to get the code to run on your
> site!*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe0/1245569059/VEsE/
> >
>
> We just built an ACTA & TPP contact tool, and it's not just a petition.
> It's
> code for your site that figures out the visitor's country and lets them
> email all their Members of European Parliament--the politicians who will be
> voting on ACTA in June--or the trade negotiators behind TPP.  *This direct
> contact between voters and their officials, driven by websites of all
> sizes, was instrumental in the fight against SOPA. ** *
>
> We can use the same tactics to defeat ACTA & TPP, but we need your help!
>
> *Support the street protests with a flood of emails to the officials
> responsible for ACTA & TPP.  Get the code for your
> website!*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe0/1245569059/VEsF/
> >
>
> *Don't have a website?  Tell officials in your country to scrap ACTA &
> TPP!   And spread the word about Saturday's protests!
> *<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe3/1245569059/VEsC/
> >
>
> This is going to be tough fight.  But we need to make secretive trade
> agreements harder to pass than US law.  If we don't, our internet's future
> belongs to the lobbyists behind SOPA.
>
> This is just the beginning,
>
> --Holmes Wilson, Tiffiniy Cheng, Joshua Blount & the whole Fight for the
> Future team.
>
> P.S. This *map of ACTA street protests in
> Europe*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe1/1245569059/VEsD/
> >is
> amazing. The largest has almost 50,000 RSVP's!
>
> <
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fee/1245569059/VEsA/
> >
> <
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fef/1245569059/VEsB/
> >
>
> Sources:
>
> 1. For more information on ACTA, read these excellent articles from *
> Techdirt*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fec/1245569059/VEsO/
> >and
> *La Quadrature du
> Net*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fed/1245569059/VEsP/
> >.
> For information on TPP, read this *Ars
> Technica*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fea/1245569059/VEsHBQ/
> >piece.
> For video,
> *watch this*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863feb/1245569059/VEsHBA/
> >
> .
>
> 2. Obama's signing of ACTA may have been unconstitutional. See
> *Anti-counterfeiting
> agreement raises constitutional
> concerns*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe8/1245569059/VEsHBw/
> >and
> *Techdirt*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fe9/1245569059/VEsHBg/
> >
> .
>
> 3. *Hollywood gets to party with TPP negotiators, public interest groups
> get thrown out of the
> hotel.*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fd6/1245569059/VEsHAQ/
> >
>
> 4. *Ars Technica: Czech, Slovak governments backing away from ACTA,
> too.*<
> http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f20ae/1d059023/706e8316/f863fd7/1245569059/VEsHAA/
> >
>
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