[pp.int.general] EU commission declares protests as being non democratic ?

Pirat@LennStar.de pirat at lennstar.de
Tue Feb 21 16:28:02 CET 2012


and part 3: EU-Commission doesn't want legal advise on new version of
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http://netzpolitik.org/2012/eu-kommission-vorratsdatenspeicherung-zu-sensibel-fur-offentliche-debatte/

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Am 21.02.2012 16:20, schrieb Justus Römeth:
> Even if you interpret it in a positive way ("protests are democratic,
> some of the goals behind them are not") you have to wonder what exactly
> they are talking about.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de <pirat at lennstar.de
> <mailto:pirat at lennstar.de>> wrote:
> 
>     The story is from iRights and should be true. I asked for the protocoll,
>     their answer was that it was agreed with the "leaker" to only quote the
>     passages.
>     http://irights.info/blog/arbeit2.0/2012/02/20/europaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch/
> 
>     But there was already a few days ago the Music Industry and such likes
>     who framed the protest as an "attack on the democratic institutions of
>     the EU".
>     So it is no surprise at all hearing the Commission saying basically the
>     same.
> 
>     Using the term "broad society" when benefitting a few industries while
>     damaging all the others look a bit odd, though ;)
> 
>     LennStar
> 
>     Am 21.02.2012 10 <tel:21.02.2012%2010>:27, schrieb Mattias Bjärnemalm:
>     > Google translate is not always good for understanding nuances. But
>     if I
>     > read the text correctly the commission doesnt speak about the protests
>     > as being undemocratic, but of the aims of some of the people
>     behind the
>     > protests being not democratic ( which is most likely true). The
>     mention
>     > of the word undemocratic seems to be from whoever wrote the blog post.
>     >
>     > But perhaps the translation mixes up things for me?
>     >
>     > /Mab
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Pat Maechler aka Valio <pirate at valio.ch <mailto:pirate at valio.ch>>
>     skrev:
>     >
>     >
>     > can someone deny or confirm this?
>     >
>     > according to this story some leaked internal meeting minutes the EU
>     > commission discusses the European wide protests against ACTA as being
>     > undemocratic...hm....speaking about ACTA...
>     >
>     >
>     http://translate.google.ch/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Firights.info%2Fblog%2Farbeit2.0%2F2012%2F02%2F20%2Feuropaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch%2F
>     <http://translate.google.ch/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Firights.info%2Fblog%2Farbeit2.0%2F2012%2F02%2F20%2Feuropaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch%2F>
>     >
>     > given this story is true, it would be a huge "WTF?" for the EU
>     > commission from my POV
>     >
>     > -pat
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