[pp.int.general] EU commission declares protests as being non democratic ?
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Tue Feb 21 16:28:02 CET 2012
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Am 21.02.2012 16:20, schrieb Justus Römeth:
> Even if you interpret it in a positive way ("protests are democratic,
> some of the goals behind them are not") you have to wonder what exactly
> they are talking about.
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de <pirat at lennstar.de
> <mailto:pirat at lennstar.de>> wrote:
>
> The story is from iRights and should be true. I asked for the protocoll,
> their answer was that it was agreed with the "leaker" to only quote the
> passages.
> http://irights.info/blog/arbeit2.0/2012/02/20/europaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch/
>
> But there was already a few days ago the Music Industry and such likes
> who framed the protest as an "attack on the democratic institutions of
> the EU".
> So it is no surprise at all hearing the Commission saying basically the
> same.
>
> Using the term "broad society" when benefitting a few industries while
> damaging all the others look a bit odd, though ;)
>
> LennStar
>
> Am 21.02.2012 10 <tel:21.02.2012%2010>:27, schrieb Mattias Bjärnemalm:
> > Google translate is not always good for understanding nuances. But
> if I
> > read the text correctly the commission doesnt speak about the protests
> > as being undemocratic, but of the aims of some of the people
> behind the
> > protests being not democratic ( which is most likely true). The
> mention
> > of the word undemocratic seems to be from whoever wrote the blog post.
> >
> > But perhaps the translation mixes up things for me?
> >
> > /Mab
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat Maechler aka Valio <pirate at valio.ch <mailto:pirate at valio.ch>>
> skrev:
> >
> >
> > can someone deny or confirm this?
> >
> > according to this story some leaked internal meeting minutes the EU
> > commission discusses the European wide protests against ACTA as being
> > undemocratic...hm....speaking about ACTA...
> >
> >
> http://translate.google.ch/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Firights.info%2Fblog%2Farbeit2.0%2F2012%2F02%2F20%2Feuropaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch%2F
> <http://translate.google.ch/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Firights.info%2Fblog%2Farbeit2.0%2F2012%2F02%2F20%2Feuropaische-kommission-halt-acta-protest-fur-teilweise-undemokratisch%2F>
> >
> > given this story is true, it would be a huge "WTF?" for the EU
> > commission from my POV
> >
> > -pat
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