[pp.int.general] Artificial meat

[Daniel Riaño]

2012/2/24 Marko Mitrovic <archamond at gmail.com>

> Marco Confalonieri is right. GMO ain't gonna help starving countries. Ever.
> It is there just to increase productivity. Artificial market
> distortions are the real problem.
>

I don't deny artificial market distortions, but at some point billions of
Chinese people will start demanding meat at levels closer to the ones in
European or north American markets. And there's no market distortions to
amend that can fill that gap.

>
> I've never been to US of A, but I hear from lot of people who went
> there that all the food, especially vegetables there taste the same.
> They look like they're out of photoshop but taste is simply
> incomparable with organic food back home. If that's the future of
> nutrition where we are going, I'd rather buy myself small property on
> countryside, two cows, few pigs and chickens and live proper life with
> nice food.
>

Sounds nice, I don't deny it. But simply put there's no space over the face
of the Earth for everybody's going to live the fine rural life, and rural
life is far more contaminant and energy inefficient that livin' the city
life.

>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Marco Confalonieri
> <marco.confalonieri at email.it> wrote:
> > Il 24/02/2012 10.49, Daniel Riaño ha scritto:
> >> We are not against GMO food. We are against patenting GM forms of
> >> life. Years ago, when I imagined something like that would happen
> >> sooner than later, I accepted that this was inevitable, first for the
> >> underdeveloped or overpopulated countries, then for the richer
> >> countries. (And unless you imagine some way to convert housed cows'
> >> methane in some sort of efficient energy, large farms of livestock
> >> have already their days numbered.)
> >
> > I agree with your position on GMOs, but I don't think they are really
> > the true solution to the world starvation: GMOs for food production were
> > developed for economical reasons, and most of the agricultural GMOs
> > implement "by design" a sort of "DRM": their seeds are almost sterile. I
> > wrote a small article on that some years ago on this issue:
> >
> > http://www.piratpartiet.it/pdf/2010-06-04.pdf (in italian)
> >
> > Besides this, I think there are some weird "side effects" to the
> > improvements in the food production chain: while a part of the world is
> > dying from starvation, the other part produces so much food that its
> > production must be strictly regulated, like "milk quotas" in the EU, or
> > destroyed as in Sicily, an italian region, where farmers are PAID by the
> > European Union to throw away oranges over a certain quota. I bet the
> > same happens for many other types of fruits and vegetables across Europe.
> >
> > I was told that in the USA the same happen with meat (anyone from there
> > can confirm or dismiss the information?)
> >
> > In summary, I think that before taking on GMOs, the distortions of the
> > market should be addressed.
> >
> > --
> > Marco Confalonieri
> >
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