[pp.int.general] European citizens' Initiative - ID requirement & data retention

Andrew Norton ktetch at gmail.com
Sat Jan 7 18:12:01 CET 2012


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On 1/7/2012 7:00 AM, Jerry Weyer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>     Hi:
> 
>     Please explain me how can residence be enough to verify a signature.
>     Moreover, please tell me how do you plan to verify that residence. If
>     specifying residence was enought, then someone from Abu Dhabi could
>     set the residence field to "France" and then sign. Then do it again,
>     and again, until 1 million signatures is reached, for example.
> 
> 
> Luxembourgish municipalities have residence lists, so if you have the
> name and the address of a person you can check whether a) they exists
> and b) they live where they claim to live. I think most countries have
> some kind of similar databases.
>  

UK has the electoral role. It's updated annually, but also includes
dates of birth (for those that turn 18 within a year of it being
published), and it's available, unedited, for supervised viewing by
ANYONE. Or you can buy a copy which doesn't include people that have
'opted out'. It's this version that 192.com searches, for instance.

Other than that, as a brit, I don't really have any ID numbers. I've got
my driving license (which is the old green EU paper one, not a
photocard) and a NI card (somewhere) and of course my passport, but of
these 3 official uk documents, only one is given to all citizens (NI)
and then only the UK ones. An EU citizen in the UK wouldn't have them.
(but they'd have their own id stuff, I guess)


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