[pp.int.general] General news: PPDE more than 20k members

Fri Jan 13 19:16:16 CET 2012

@ Aza:

German law requires us to get a signed documents from members before
admitting them, which has to be an original (so not just scanned), so
either at meetings or by snailmail. There are some other things that
legally require us to use snailmail as well, as invitations to general
assemblies for example, but you can opt out of that electronically (which
apparently is okay legally). And, while the internet is great to facilitate
communication, in the end political work on a big scale is impossible to do
if you don't know the other person at all in real life, so we have a lot of
different weekly meetings, several assemblies for the different
geographical or thematic bodies, and so on. In the end, while the internet
is important to us, and we want to steer legislature keeping the net as
open and free as possible, we see us as a general political party, and
don't want to exclude people that don't know how the internet works from
political participation. I know that PP Canada for example does most if not
all of their political work online, but if you want to grow above a certain
threshold real life meetings tend to be more productive, and also a good
was to advertise your party to regular media.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Mozart <mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au>wrote:

> Hi Justus,
>
> Your last paragraph is actually a very good idea. It might be worthwhile
> pursing it on a monthly basis.
>
> Regards,
> Mozart
> (PPAU)
>
> On 14/01/2012, at 4:44 AM, Justus Römeth wrote:
>
> @ Josef:
>
> Well, I am just an ordinary member. Our international coordinators are Gregory
> Engels <http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:Dichter>, Thomas Gaul<http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:ThomasG>,
> as well as  Silke Suck <http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:SilkeS> for
> the US (1)
>
> The election to Schleswig Holstein's Landtag are on May 6th. Just check
> the PPI wiki for upcoming election dates involving pirate parties, at least
> for Germany that one is fairly reliable. (2)
>
> @Andrew: Well, PPI is set up for the single parties to coordinate, PWB for
> single pirates (for bigger parties like PPDE such a distinction makes
> sense). So far the PWB list is only for the coordination of their
> organization though, and it's not active at all. They help to organize
> Piraten-Streaming for example to cover Pirate events involving PPDE and
> other parties in central Europe, but are basically just a formalization of
> contacts for the different chapters and regular meeting groups around Lake
> Constance open for all pirates worldwide, though.
>
> I think a regular international newsletter would make sense. No idea how
> often it should come out (either monthly, bi-weekly or weekly me thinks),
> and it is probably too much to ask the board to do, so maybe setting up a
> volunteering press corps, similair to what Flaschenpost is doing for PPDE,
> may be a good idea. I am in the middle of my thesis atm however, so I don't
> want to commit to anything before I am done with that and know how my life
> will continue after uni. In general I could imagine being at least part of
> such an organization, though...
> There used to be Pirate Party Radio, a podcast that talked about news
> within the English speaking pirate parties, but the others were
> unfortunately rather absent.
>
> Kind regards
> -J
>
> 1=
> http://www.piratenpartei.de/navigation/partei/piratenparteien-weltweit/kontakt
> 2=http://int.piratenpartei.de/Main_Page
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> On 1/13/2012 5:47 AM, Justus Römeth wrote:
>> > Hello Pirates
>> > Just wanted to let you know that as of this morning PPDE has more than
>> > 20 000 members. More information in German can be found in the
>> > Wiki:
>> http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Mitglieder#Mitglieder_nach_Landesverband
>> >
>> > We have the election of the state/province parliament in the Bundesland
>> > of Schleswig-Holstein (North of Hamburg) coming up and aim at 8%, polls
>> > see us at 6 at the moment. After the success we have had in Berlin this
>> > would be a tremendous success, considering SH is quite a rural place.
>> > Many commentators have seen the success we had in Berlin as due to the
>> > specific circumstances of Berlin being a city full of young, somewhat
>> > innovative people, so success in Schleswig-Holstein would be a big sign
>> > of the further appeal we have to ordinary voters outside of big cities.
>> >
>> > I think it's a good idea to discuss what is going on in the different
>> > pirate parties from time to time. If you think this should not be part
>> > of the PPI list, maybe we can move it to the pirates without borders
>> > list, even though I fear not as many people read that one.
>>
>> I'd never even heard of it.
>>
>> In fact, the discussion of what's going on was EXACTLY what this list
>> was set up to do. Sometimes people tend to forget that media is not
>> limited to one country, but watches the world, and so we can be
>> questioned about events that are pirate related, but happening
>> elsewhere. If we don't know about them ahead of time, then we're
>> thinking off the cuff or admitting 'we don't know', and that just
>> doesn't look good.
>>
>> It's also something I've been pushing the PPI to do as well, pushing a
>> brief precis of meeting topics and actions in here once a week "this was
>> discussed with this result".
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers and ahoi!
>> > Justus Römeth
>> >
>> >
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>> Andrew Norton
>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
>> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
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