[pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
Francisco George
francisco.george at gmail.com
Fri Jan 20 12:03:11 CET 2012
Pirata Spain, after some difficulties(we are reconfiguring our web) just
released this
http://www.partidopirata.es/index2.html
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> 1. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (Amelia Andersdotter)
> 2. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (Justus R?meth)
> 3. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (David Arcos)
> 4. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (Giulio Prisco)
> 5. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (Pirat at LennStar.de)
> 6. Re: MegaUpload raided, shut down on request of US authorities
> (David Arcos)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:35:14 +0200
> From: Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request
> of US authorities
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> Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:
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> > On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
> >> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request
> >> of US authorities.
> >>
> >> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,
> >> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the
> >> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to be
> >> positively jumped on when happening.
> > Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but
> > I'm working on something.
> >
> >> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also had
> >> 150 million voters.
> >>
> > This is true.
> Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal
> adults.
>
> /a
>
> > - --
> > Andrew Norton
> > http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> > Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:06:58 +0100
> From: Justus R?meth <squig at dfpx.de>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on
> request
> of US authorities
> Message-ID:
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> I think we have to keep in mind that it is well possible that megaupload,
> as opposed to Piratebay for example, was making a lot of money off
> infringing copyright, which at least for PPDE would mean that we are not
> against pursuing them legally.
>
> What I think is more questionable here is whether all those people, all of
> whom clearly didn't break any law while having been in the US, are gonna be
> tried in the countries they were arrested, or gonna be extradited to the US
> (like that poor British boy). Or did NZ join the US and nobody cared to
> tell me? This expansion of US law to be applicable to everybody who uses
> the internet is worrysome.
>
> -J
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
> >>
> >>> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request
> >>> of US authorities.
> >>>
> >>> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,
> >>> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the
> >>> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to
> be
> >>> positively jumped on when happening.
> >>>
> >> Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but
> >> I'm working on something.
> >>
> >> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also had
> >>> 150 million voters.
> >>>
> >>> This is true.
> >>
> > Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal
> > adults.
> >
> > /a
> >
> >
> > - -- Andrew Norton
> >> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> >> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:11:13 +0100
> From: David Arcos <david.arcos at gmail.com>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on
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> of US authorities
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> Hi,
>
> Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:
> http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:16:10 +0100
> From: Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on
> request
> of US authorities
> Message-ID:
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> It seems that Megaupload was making (a lot of) money indeed. But as
> Rick says, this has the potential for a media breakthrough moment, so
> I think we should find a defendable angle. The press release just sent
> by Pirates de Catalunya seems to have good and strong arguments.
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Justus R?meth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:
> > I think we have to keep in mind that it is well possible that
> megaupload, as
> > opposed to Piratebay for example, was making a lot of money off
> infringing
> > copyright, which at least for PPDE would mean that we are not against
> > pursuing them legally.
> >
> > What I think is more questionable here is whether all those people, all
> of
> > whom clearly didn't break any law while having been in the US, are gonna
> be
> > tried in the countries they were arrested, or gonna be?extradited?to the
> US
> > (like that poor British boy). Or did NZ join the US and nobody cared to
> tell
> > me? This expansion of US law to be applicable to everybody who uses the
> > internet is worrysome.
> >
> > -J
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Pe 20.01.2012 00:00, Andrew Norton a scris:
> >>
> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>
> >>> On 1/19/2012 4:45 PM, Rick Falkvinge (Piratpartiet) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> MegaUpload has been raided in New Zealand and shut down at the request
> >>>> of US authorities.
> >>>>
> >>>> This has a lot in common with the raid on The Pirate Bay on May 31,
> >>>> 2006. If the affected Pirate Parties act quickly on this, it has the
> >>>> potential for a media breakthrough moment. Those are rare and need to
> be
> >>>> positively jumped on when happening.
> >>>
> >>> Alas, USPP is still in the process of reorganising our structure, but
> >>> I'm working on something.
> >>>
> >>>> After all, MegaUpload didn't just have 150 million users. They also
> had
> >>>> 150 million voters.
> >>>>
> >>> This is true.
> >>
> >> Only if you believe that the internet is populated by responsible, legal
> >> adults.
> >>
> >> /a
> >>
> >>
> >>> - -- Andrew Norton
> >>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> >>> Tel: +1(352)6-KTETCH [+1-352-658-3824]
> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32)
> >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
> >>>
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> >>> 9KhgHCP5VFxNY+bxLQOZGdoq2tnrGE01B0t3e/PUTLlbeI4DFfJEfD3mJLN4zBs=
> >>> =Jwfq
> >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >>
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:32:40 +0100
> From: "Pirat at LennStar.de" <pirat at lennstar.de>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on request
> of US authorities
> Message-ID: <4F1942C8.6060303 at lennstar.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Can we get a translation into english?
> Need not to be an "official" one, just a bit better than google
> translate would give us ;)
>
> LennStar
>
> Am 20.01.2012 10:11, schrieb David Arcos:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:
> > http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:23 +0100
> From: David Arcos <david.arcos at gmail.com>
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] MegaUpload raided, shut down on
> request
> of US authorities
> Message-ID:
> <CAFB-oW3s+Z3Xr5JsWpzu5kAA5YLUOxs9FVBF1pYuf_=X2q-B3Q at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi,
>
> sorry but we're very busy at the moment. We're getting interviews from the
> main TV channel (TV3), and other minor ones. Even journalists from Russia!
>
> I recommend that you google-translate from the Spanish version (at fottom),
> should be easier for Google.
>
> Should you have a problem with a specific sentence, just tell me!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Pirat at LennStar.de <pirat at lennstar.de
> >wrote:
>
> > Can we get a translation into english?
> > Need not to be an "official" one, just a bit better than google
> > translate would give us ;)
> >
> > LennStar
> >
> > Am 20.01.2012 10:11, schrieb David Arcos:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Pirates de Catalunya sent a press release, and published this:
> > > http://pirata.cat/bloc/?p=2797
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
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