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[Justus Römeth]

So someone from the Press team answered, according to that msg on the
German mailing list there are still internal debates within the leadership
and/or the press team about what to do.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Justus Römeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:

> I am in no way an official, I am merely paraphrasing the talk I read on
> the PPDE-Aktive List.
>
> There they expected the press team to come up with something,
> but apparently the press team dislikes Schmitz too much to do anything
> (which brings us to the core of the problem, however).
>
> Apart from the fact that many persons in the German blogosphere saw
> megacompany very skeptically to begin with, it is now just feared that
> associating with megaupload, or it's users is not what a political party
> should do. The customers relying on someone like Schmitz are seen as
> persons that are trusting far too easily, ie if you use a cyberlocker for
> your files you should have a local backup somewhere, especially one lead by
> a character like Schmitz (as opposed to Rapidshare for example). Fefe had a
> blogpost on this that sums it up pretty well (in German:)
> http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=b1e771eb
>
> There have been many within the party that called the FBI's action
> illegal, since Schmitz is a German citizen residing in NZ, with a company
> base din Hong Kong, so the FBI assuming it's a domestic matter that should
> be dealt with according to US law only because he used servers in the US
> (well, kinda stupid from him) and a .com address (now this is a very
> interesting idea about what is American in the internet and what not that
> should as soon as possible be repealed).
>
> However, since we are well-known in Germany for a number of political
> decisions that go far beyond internet-policing, but are still being
> attacked for having a singel/the most important issue that we want to
> legalize file-sharing no matter the cost (this is how conservative and
> liberal politicians picture us often) getting too involved in this case
> could be seen as detrimental, and that is why I think many members of PPDE
> don't want to rally behind your cause.
>
> It has been argued that you do not do this to save megaupload, but for the
> users, but, as written above, the reward PPDE could get from this (media
> exposure) is relatively small compared to the risk of being thrown back
> into this 'single-issue-statement.
>
> Please note again: I am a simple pirate, in no official function of PPDE
> other than a member whatsoever, and this is just a summary of what I think
> is going on. Personally I don't think the harm of putting some of our
> weight behind it is that big, but if the leadership should decide to do it
> they will most likely get a shitstorm going nevertheless (by doing nothing
> the same could happen, mind). However, we can't wait to the next GA to find
> out what the best option is, and I personally think it is a bit late to
> really reply to it now. Maybe my idea of how the situation is is totally
> wrong and PPDE will decide to sign it soon. I just don't think that is
> likely.
>
> kind regards
>
> Justus
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>wrote:
>
>>  Sad to hear so.
>>
>> So far, PP-CAT, PP-ES, PP-Gal, PP-SE, PP-CA, PP-UA, PP-SR and PP-CZ have
>> joined.
>>
>> Can you please explain how this could harm you?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>> Al 27/01/12 12:17, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
>>
>> Well, PPD decided not to put its weight behind it, as we fear that it
>> would do us more harm than good. But then again we are already quite
>> established, That's not to stop anybody from translating the text, however.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, David Arcos <david.arcos at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Techcrunch, RWW, BBC, too:
>>>
>>> http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/26/pirate-parties-organizing-lawsuit-against-fbi-over-megaupload-takedown/
>>>
>>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/megaupload_users_revolt_threaten_to_sue_us_authori.php
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/noticias/2012/01/120126_tecnologia_demanda_megaupload_aa.shtml
>>>
>>>  It's a pity that some PP's haven't still supported/translated it! You
>>> could easily get a lot of traffic!
>>>
>>>  Should you want to endorse the campaing, please hurry up and tell
>>> partit at pirata.cat.
>>>
>>>  Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:37 AM, David Arcos <david.arcos at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>>  looks like the #megacomplaint got to reddit's frontpage:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/oy1wr/megaupload_users_plan_to_sue_the_fbi_over_lost/
>>>>
>>>>  As there are a lot of comments and missinformation about the Pirate
>>>> Parties ("*Pirates vs FBI!*"), I would really appreciate some help :)
>>>>
>>>>  Cheers!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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