[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign

José Manuel Goig hosemanuelgoc at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 16:45:01 CET 2012


You say I trolled, I say I expressed my free opinion.

But anyway, I don't have bad feelings about any colleague pirate and even
less about you.

I hope we can talk about this some day in person - in a language that we
both can use better ;-)

José Manuel Goig
@jmgoig
http://usuadio.com
El 30/01/2012 16:33, <kenneth at pirata.cat> escribió:

> You trolled in PP-Cat lists, not here :)
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:28:17 +0100, José Manuel Goig
> <hosemanuelgoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Kenneth,
> >
> > Who was trolling? I was expressing my own opinion.  This a free
> expression
> > list, isn't it? We're all against censorship, aren't we?
> >
> > That we don't agree in lots of things about how the Catalan party works
> > doesn't mean that I don't have the right to tell things how I see them.
> >
> > I think you have misunderstood me completly.
> >
> > As I said, I'm in favour of this complaint.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > José Manuel Goig
> > @jmgoig
> > http://usuadio.com
> > El 30/01/2012 13:12, "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat> escribió:
> >
> >> Dear José,
> >>
> >> If you had participated at least once in MU's campaign instead of
> >> trolling in our public mailing lists, maybe you would have a clue about
> >> the legal strategy. There's going to be 3 different complaints (yes,
> >> another one) divided in 4 (3 depending on the damages + 1 about
> personal
> >> data).
> >>
> >> And yes, the affected users can get their money back, outside of the
> US.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Kenneth
> >>
> >> Al 29/01/12 22:10, En/na José Manuel Goig ha escrit:
> >> > After reading all your mails here, I'd like to add that having read
> >> > the first 2 chapters of the new U.S.A. Pirate Party's book I'm not so
> >> > sure that this joint complaint campaign is led to win so easily.
> >> >
> >> > Please, don't get me wrong, I'm for it. But we are talking of a
> >> > country with arbitrary justice and strong lobbies which dictate the
> >> > government's actions.
> >> >
> >> > As a Catalan and Spanish pirate I know that the lawyer's behind this
> >> > complaint are the best of the best. But even so, I have my doubts
> >> > about a 100% win, it could be not enough.
> >> >
> >> > Well, my 2 cents.
> >> >
> >> > 2012/1/29 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>:
> >> >>    Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does not
> >> force
> >> >>    the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down,
> why
> >> >>    should they do so?
> >> >>
> >> >> Common decency?  Not hurting innocent people when you don't have to?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not surprised that US police think such principles don't apply
> to
> >> >> them.  They are arrogant thugs, and they are glad when they get an
> >> >> excuse to hurt lots of people and call it "collateral damage".  They
> >> >> give the excuse that, "Those people were naive".
> >> >>
> >> >> What I ask is, Christian Hufgard, why are you bending over backwards
> >> >> to see things from their viewpoint?  Why do you want them not to
> face
> >> >> criticism for being arrogant and callous towards thousands of people
> >> >> who are not accused of anything?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dr Richard Stallman
> >> >> President, Free Software Foundation
> >> >> 51 Franklin St
> >> >> Boston MA 02110
> >> >> USA
> >> >> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> >> >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> >> >>  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/
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