[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign

[kenneth at pirata.cat]

You trolled in PP-Cat lists, not here :)


On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:28:17 +0100, José Manuel Goig
<hosemanuelgoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kenneth,
> 
> Who was trolling? I was expressing my own opinion.  This a free
expression
> list, isn't it? We're all against censorship, aren't we?
> 
> That we don't agree in lots of things about how the Catalan party works
> doesn't mean that I don't have the right to tell things how I see them.
> 
> I think you have misunderstood me completly.
> 
> As I said, I'm in favour of this complaint.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> José Manuel Goig
> @jmgoig
> http://usuadio.com
> El 30/01/2012 13:12, "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat> escribió:
> 
>> Dear José,
>>
>> If you had participated at least once in MU's campaign instead of
>> trolling in our public mailing lists, maybe you would have a clue about
>> the legal strategy. There's going to be 3 different complaints (yes,
>> another one) divided in 4 (3 depending on the damages + 1 about
personal
>> data).
>>
>> And yes, the affected users can get their money back, outside of the
US.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>> Al 29/01/12 22:10, En/na José Manuel Goig ha escrit:
>> > After reading all your mails here, I'd like to add that having read
>> > the first 2 chapters of the new U.S.A. Pirate Party's book I'm not so
>> > sure that this joint complaint campaign is led to win so easily.
>> >
>> > Please, don't get me wrong, I'm for it. But we are talking of a
>> > country with arbitrary justice and strong lobbies which dictate the
>> > government's actions.
>> >
>> > As a Catalan and Spanish pirate I know that the lawyer's behind this
>> > complaint are the best of the best. But even so, I have my doubts
>> > about a 100% win, it could be not enough.
>> >
>> > Well, my 2 cents.
>> >
>> > 2012/1/29 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>:
>> >>    Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does not
>> force
>> >>    the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down,
why
>> >>    should they do so?
>> >>
>> >> Common decency?  Not hurting innocent people when you don't have to?
>> >>
>> >> I am not surprised that US police think such principles don't apply
to
>> >> them.  They are arrogant thugs, and they are glad when they get an
>> >> excuse to hurt lots of people and call it "collateral damage".  They
>> >> give the excuse that, "Those people were naive".
>> >>
>> >> What I ask is, Christian Hufgard, why are you bending over backwards
>> >> to see things from their viewpoint?  Why do you want them not to
face
>> >> criticism for being arrogant and callous towards thousands of people
>> >> who are not accused of anything?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dr Richard Stallman
>> >> President, Free Software Foundation
>> >> 51 Franklin St
>> >> Boston MA 02110
>> >> USA
>> >> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>> >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>> >>  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/
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