[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign
José Manuel Goig
hosemanuelgoc at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 16:28:17 CET 2012
Who was trolling? I was expressing my own opinion. This a free expression
list, isn't it? We're all against censorship, aren't we?
That we don't agree in lots of things about how the Catalan party works
doesn't mean that I don't have the right to tell things how I see them.
I think you have misunderstood me completly.
As I said, I'm in favour of this complaint.
José Manuel Goig
El 30/01/2012 13:12, "Kenneth Peiruza" <kenneth at pirata.cat> escribió:
> Dear José,
> If you had participated at least once in MU's campaign instead of
> trolling in our public mailing lists, maybe you would have a clue about
> the legal strategy. There's going to be 3 different complaints (yes,
> another one) divided in 4 (3 depending on the damages + 1 about personal
> And yes, the affected users can get their money back, outside of the US.
> Al 29/01/12 22:10, En/na José Manuel Goig ha escrit:
> > After reading all your mails here, I'd like to add that having read
> > the first 2 chapters of the new U.S.A. Pirate Party's book I'm not so
> > sure that this joint complaint campaign is led to win so easily.
> > Please, don't get me wrong, I'm for it. But we are talking of a
> > country with arbitrary justice and strong lobbies which dictate the
> > government's actions.
> > As a Catalan and Spanish pirate I know that the lawyer's behind this
> > complaint are the best of the best. But even so, I have my doubts
> > about a 100% win, it could be not enough.
> > Well, my 2 cents.
> > 2012/1/29 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>:
> >> Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does not
> >> the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down, why
> >> should they do so?
> >> Common decency? Not hurting innocent people when you don't have to?
> >> I am not surprised that US police think such principles don't apply to
> >> them. They are arrogant thugs, and they are glad when they get an
> >> excuse to hurt lots of people and call it "collateral damage". They
> >> give the excuse that, "Those people were naive".
> >> What I ask is, Christian Hufgard, why are you bending over backwards
> >> to see things from their viewpoint? Why do you want them not to face
> >> criticism for being arrogant and callous towards thousands of people
> >> who are not accused of anything?
> >> --
> >> Dr Richard Stallman
> >> President, Free Software Foundation
> >> 51 Franklin St
> >> Boston MA 02110
> >> USA
> >> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
> >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> >> Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/
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