[pp.int.general] research funding

Anouk Neeteson jakobsheep at gmail.com
Sat Jul 28 02:48:26 CEST 2012


I shouldn't reply this late to E-mails.
But again thanks Amelia for reminding us again about the overall going on
corruption.
This is what we are up against, are we all uncorruptable in the end?

mrNatural
On Jul 27, 2012 11:00 p.m., "Amelia Andersdotter" <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Clearly.
>
> These governments want to decrease the EU total expenditure, and one of
> their plans for achieving this decrease is by making budget adjustments
> such as the below ones (or so i would imagine). The alternative would be to
> reduce the CAP or the structural funds, and I find it unlikely this is a
> plan since all three countries are benefitting directly from those
> financial instruments.
>
> In general, a budget decrease may not be undesirable, but it would be most
> unsatisfying if it came at the expense of a well-functioning research
> budget rather than at the expense of unnecessary agricultural subsidies.
>
> best regards,
>
> Amelia
>
> Pe 27.07.2012 21:23, Antonio Garcia a scris:
>
>  Why specifically Sweden, the Netherlands and the UK?
>
> Is there any correlating factor that may tell us we face one single
> problem?
>
>
> Antonio
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:12:46 +0300
> > From: teirdes at gmail.com
> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> > Subject: [pp.int.general] research funding
> >
> > Politically, the most interesting issue to deal with at this time at a
> > European level is how to deal with public-private partnerships (PPPs)
> > and joint undertakings (JUs). Which financial instruments do we use to
> > incentivise particular kinds of development and through which agents?
> > How do we make goal formulation?
> >
> > It's been one of the bigger discussions around the Horizon 2020 package
> > (EU research funding budget, framework program 8) and will continue to
> > be an evolving debate in the coming six months.
> >
> > The line that I have been pushing in Brussels together with my
> > colleague, Christian Engström, is the need to adapt particularly results
> > management to different industry sectors in cases of PPPs, the need for
> > an open access by default policy in the fields of research results,
> > analysis and data, and an increased need for transparency and
> > accountability in the funding calls for especially projects co-financed
> > by the private sector.
> >
> > Also, with private educational facilities playing an increasingly
> > important role in many MS frameworks, it is reasonable to not limit a
> > public-private partnership to collaborations between public institutions
> > and private sectors, but, say, public entities.
> >
> > We also call for a separation between funds going into SMEs (COSME) and
> > fundamental research (Horizon 2020), so as to not create the illusion of
> > the Union spending money on research when in fact we're using the money
> > for marketization support to small market players. Unfortunately member
> > states have been very unwilling to listen to these calls, and therefore
> > support actions at a MS level would be highly appreciated. Especially in
> > Sweden, the Netherlands and the UK.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Amelia Andersdotter
> >
> > Pe 27.07.2012 20:38, Jack Allnutt et al au scris:
> >
> > research funding
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