[pp.int.general] Towards a Pirate Policy on Environmental Issues

[Dario]

Agreed. Sustainability is a long term matter. We need to think out of the
box and with long term outlook.

That also means to tackle the economic consequences of our current claims
and other future global issues. We don't need messianic solutions (XIX
century ideologies). We need to point out what is wrong and how many ways
are available to handle whatever needs to be fixed.

To make myself clear, being short-sighted and restricting ourselves won't
help us.

2012/7/31 Christian Indiann <cgmindian at gmail.com>

> I find it odd that as a party not even a decade old, we are squabbling
> like the old and stuffy Republicans and Democrats. Sorry to use such
> profanity. In all honesty after reading the information presented to me
> both here and abroad, I can gather that making an environmental impact is
> the one thing that our species is damn good at; whether it is good or bad
> for the environment.
>
>  If we as a political party want to begin to address issues that concern
> the environment then it would seemingly be in our best interest to make to
> first stop insulting people for their opinions because they are
> "environmentalist or humanist." Should it then not be reasonable that we as
> a progressive party can be reasonable and discuss the issues presented to
> us with decorum?
>
> As for the environment I believe that we must have sustainability. Granted
> this topic has countless hours, days, and years’ worth of discussion behind
> it, I'm baffled that there seems to be a lack of a general consensus. I
> live in Southern Texas where we are always reminded of the booming oil
> industry. As a Texan I'm content with the oil industry because it was one
> of the driving forces behind our economic recovery. HOWEVER; I am not proud
> of this industry. I would like to see a day come when Democrats,
> Republicans, Greens, AND PP-Texas are represented in my state government so
> we can have TRUE energy reform by discussing all of the options. After all
> comparing a kilogram of nuclear fuel to oil, the nuclear fuel produces
> 2milllion times more energy per kilogram. I would like to see a movement
> toward all alternative energy sources, and then even begin to phase out
> nuclear fission into, hopefully when the tech is feasible, fusion
> technology.
>
> The largest driving factor behind major global issues arises from the lack
> of access to energy. With clean energy we can see this change and begin to
> address many problems that we see today such as new countries and
> democracies. This access to clean energy leads to the growth and
> development of nations that eventually will become industrialized. Now, I
> realize that third and second world countries usually have a “dirty” era in
> their industrialization where they depend on cheap fuel such as fossil
> fuels. With clean energy alternatives these emerging nations have access to
> clean technology, thus allowing for a more efficient and rapid development
> of these nations.
>
> These developments are topics that we as the Pirate Party International
> should most certainly take interest in. My reasoning is this: If an
> emerging nation was to have access to clean energy and to clean technology
> that was sustainable and becomes industrialized, then copyrights, patents,
> and trademarks will inevitably rear their serpentine heads and begin to
> squeeze the life out of true economic, social, and political growth. These
> developments also would benefit the global economy as a whole; however, in
> order for this to transpire these developing technologies and energies must
> be protected from being killed by the patent and its message must be
> preserved from the copyrights restricting coils.
>
> I realize that some of what I have stated may be controversial and I
> apologize ahead of time if I have incurred the wrath of those individuals
> that believe we Pirates are separated from the environmental issues. To
> them I say this: We have a long history that shows how we have developed.
> We have been here for two hundred thousand years. Most of what makes us
> Human—our culture, language, technology— has developed in the last
> 10,000yrs—20,000yrs, our first idea of modern technology in the last
> 100yrs. And in this last decade we have seen a technology boom. We are
> developing and adapting at the fastest rate ever known to our species. So
> with that in mind, How is it that anyone can possibly think that the
> environment is not a factor when at the current pace we will exhaust our
> planet of resources within the century? Or that we are predicted to develop
> a computer with equivalent human intelligence by 2036?
>
>
>
> I digress, but really? Can we really expect to continue our current pace
> of consumption and yet suffer no consequences for our actions? Because to
> be honest, we are a party for civil rights, liberties, we are for
> patent/copyright reform etc. If that is true then should it not be our duty
> to promote these ideas of reform in all sectors of human existence so that
> everyone globally can have life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness? The
> most basic of fundamentals rights? Or shall we ignore these duties bestowed
> on us by our platform and perform the circus act that current politicians
> call representing the people?
>
> I hope that my fellow pirates see as I see without being offended or at
> the very least would read this and give it some consideration.
>
> Best Regards,
> PP-Texas
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>     You can not force companies to pay huge taxes for
>>     misbehaviour... taxes are paid on BENEFITS... and they know how to
>>     move these offshore ;) .
>>
>> Taxes do not HAVE to be calculated based on a company's profit.  That
>> is not the only way.  For instance, the punitive taxes could be
>> calculated on the total value of the business activity which damages
>> the environment.
>>
>> --
>> Dr Richard Stallman
>> President, Free Software Foundation
>> 51 Franklin St
>> Boston MA 02110
>> USA
>> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>>   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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