[pp.int.general] Brazilian participation in PPI

Luiz Cruz luiz at partidopirata.org
Fri Mar 2 14:39:07 CET 2012


Quando comentei este fato com o Fabricio do Canto, pedi a ele que me
enviasse um texto, explicando como o PPI é importante para o PPBr, com
intuíto de evitar um pensamento errôneo sobre o PPI.

Hoje existe um pensamento errado sobre o PPI no Brasil, com isso solicito
ajuda para solucionar este problema.

As informações chegam meio quebradas aqui no Brasil, por isso vim
diretamente compreender a situação, para poder solucionar este debate que
acontece no PPBr.

Espero a compreensão de todos.

Abraços e Avante Piratas!

2012/3/2 Jhessica Reia <jheleiosa a gmail.com>

> I totally agree. This is not an issue.
> PPBr is having some discussions about that, but I think since we are
> already members, it is positive to participe in the GA.
>
> Sincerily,
> Jhessica.
>
>
>
> 2012/3/2 Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels a piratenpartei-hessen.de>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There cannot be any concern in being a member of PPI, which is a
>> political International, and represent the interest of its member in the
>> international matters. In no case will PPI be able to dictate anything back
>> to its members. Political parties should be independent in their political
>> process and only be "subordinate" to their respective voters.
>>
>> There are several political Parties in Brazil who are members of
>> political internationals:
>>
>> * Partido Democrático Trabalhista (PDT) is member of Socialist
>> International (SI)
>> * Democratas  (DEM) is member of  Centrist Democrat International (CDI)
>> and of International Democrat Union (IDU) and Christian Democrat
>> Organization of America (ODCA) and Union of Latin American Parties (UPLA)
>> * Partido da Social Democracia Brasileira (PSDB) is an observer member of
>> CDI and ODCA
>> * Partido Verde do Brasil (PV) is member of Global Greens (GG)
>>
>> Some other major political parties however do not have any international
>> affiliations, like PMDB, PP or PT.
>>
>> The Statutes of PPI follows the structure and overall intent of other
>> political internationals, so I am very positive, that an affiliation with
>> PPI will never be a problem in a democratic country.
>>
>> sincerely,
>>
>> Gregory Engels
>> International Coordinator
>> Pirate Party of Germany
>>
>> mobile: +49 172 853 44 91
>> skype:gregory.engels
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02.03.2012, at 12:08, Fabricio Do Canto wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>> Dear PPIs
>>
>> The Brasilian Pirates are concerned that their participation in the PPI
>> might make it difficult if not impossible for the PPBR to become an
>> official party.
>>
>> The reason is that formally no political party can be subordinate to
>> other international entities, what is a very valuable and understood
>> principle. We know that we work bottom up and not top down, as the swarm
>> and free internet should be, but the problem is how to communicate this to
>> the outside over there.
>>
>> Therefore I ask you the PPI Members if any of you had similar experiences
>> in your respective countries and if so how you dealt with this.
>>
>> Looking forward to hear from you,
>>
>> Fabricio
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> Jhessica Reia
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