[pp.int.general] Brazilian participation in PPI

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Te escribo en castellano para facilitarte la comprensión. En resumen:

- PPI no es un partido, es una asociación/organización no gubernamental
(NPO)
- PPI no dá órdenes a sus miembros, es un lugar para compartir
iniciativas/experiencias
- No hay ningún problema legal para que PP-Br pertenezca a PPI, como se
ha demostrado por otros tantos partidos Brasileños que pertenecen a
organizaciones internacionales.

Saludos!


Now in English for the rest:

- PPI is not a party, it's a non-profit.
- PPI gives no directives/orders to its members, it's a place for
sharing initiatives/experiences.
- There's no legal problem why PP-Br can't belong to PPI, as shown by
many other Brazilian parties belonging to international organizations.


Regards!

Kenneth

On 02/03/12 14:39, Luiz Cruz wrote:
> Quando comentei este fato com o Fabricio do Canto, pedi a ele que me
> enviasse um texto, explicando como o PPI é importante para o PPBr, com
> intuíto de evitar um pensamento errôneo sobre o PPI.
>
> Hoje existe um pensamento errado sobre o PPI no Brasil, com isso
> solicito ajuda para solucionar este problema.
>
> As informações chegam meio quebradas aqui no Brasil, por isso vim
> diretamente compreender a situação, para poder solucionar este debate
> que acontece no PPBr.
>
> Espero a compreensão de todos.
>
> Abraços e Avante Piratas!
>
> 2012/3/2 Jhessica Reia <jheleiosa at gmail.com <mailto:jheleiosa at gmail.com>>
>
>     I totally agree. This is not an issue.
>     PPBr is having some discussions about that, but I think since we
>     are already members, it is positive to participe in the GA.
>
>     Sincerily,
>     Jhessica.
>
>
>
>     2012/3/2 Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de
>     <mailto:Gregory.Engels at piratenpartei-hessen.de>>
>
>         Hi, 
>
>         There cannot be any concern in being a member of PPI, which is
>         a political International, and represent the interest of its
>         member in the international matters. In no case will PPI be
>         able to dictate anything back to its members. Political
>         parties should be independent in their political process and
>         only be "subordinate" to their respective voters. 
>
>         There are several political Parties in Brazil who are members
>         of political internationals:
>
>         * Partido Democrático Trabalhista (PDT) is member of Socialist
>         International (SI)
>         * Democratas  (DEM) is member of  Centrist Democrat
>         International (CDI) and of International Democrat Union (IDU)
>         and Christian Democrat Organization of America (ODCA)
>         and Union of Latin American Parties (UPLA)
>         * Partido da Social Democracia Brasileira (PSDB) is an
>         observer member of CDI and ODCA
>         * Partido Verde do Brasil (PV) is member of Global Greens (GG)
>
>         Some other major political parties however do not have any
>         international affiliations, like PMDB, PP or PT.
>
>         The Statutes of PPI follows the structure and overall intent
>         of other political internationals, so I am very positive, that
>         an affiliation with PPI will never be a problem in a
>         democratic country.
>
>         sincerely, 
>
>         Gregory Engels
>         International Coordinator
>         Pirate Party of Germany
>
>         mobile: +49 172 853 44 91 <tel:%2B49%20172%20853%2044%2091>
>         skype:gregory.engels
>         jabber:dichter at jabber.piratenpartei.de
>         my free time: https://tungle.me/dichter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         On 02.03.2012, at 12:08, Fabricio Do Canto wrote:
>
>>         Dear Friends,
>>         Dear PPIs
>>
>>         The Brasilian Pirates are concerned that their participation
>>         in the PPI might make it difficult if not impossible for the
>>         PPBR to become an official party.
>>
>>         The reason is that formally no political party can be
>>         subordinate to other international entities, what is a very
>>         valuable and understood principle. We know that we work
>>         bottom up and not top down, as the swarm and free internet
>>         should be, but the problem is how to communicate this to the
>>         outside over there.
>>
>>         Therefore I ask you the PPI Members if any of you had similar
>>         experiences in your respective countries and if so how you
>>         dealt with this.
>>
>>         Looking forward to hear from you,
>>
>>         Fabricio
>>
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>
>     -- 
>     Jhessica Reia
>
>
>
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>
> -- 
> Luiz Felipe Cruz
> Partido Pirata do Brasil
>
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