[pp.int.general] Pirate Party Situation in Spain

[Rock Neurotiko]

Sorry, I hadn't present myself.

I'm Rock, member of de directive of PP-Es.

2012/3/4 Victor Fernandez <gevictorfr at gmail.com>

> Hi! my name is Victor, I'm 20 years old and a I'm a member of PPES and
> PP-GAL.
>
> In this moment almost all the member of PP-Gal are part of PPES,
> furthermore we want a confederation and the most active members of PP-GAL
> are working actively in the PPES mail lists.
>
> Problems off PPES?
>
> -The work environment is pretty bad without out .Gal and .Cat members. I
> think this is the worst problem and we can't help to fix it. Now some
> people are moderating the mail list but that don't fix the problem.
>
It's true, we have some problematic people who insults others, we are
trying to fix it, and for right now it's working.


>
> - A few persons of PPES don't trust on PP-CAT people so is hard to work
> together.
>

That's not true, the true it's that some people don't trust in some people
of PP-Cat, like upside.


>
> -PPES statutes but now I think they really are trying to reform it.
>

Yes, we are constantly working on it.

>
> -People don't really want to talk. I've proposed to PPES directive create
> a main list where a few people of PP-GAL, PPES and PP-CAT could work
> together, share information quickly etc. but until now they don't want
> because off PP-CAT. They prefer that one person (me) talk to one person of
> the PPES directive or sent a email to PPES mail list, the one of the bad
> work environment so... not easily talk, work and trust.
>

Understand us, if some one attack constantly us in the PPI list, it's
obviously that he/she won't want to talk with us.


>
> 2012/3/4 Justus Römeth <roemeth at gmail.com>
>
>>  Moin/hola/ahoi
>>
>> Instead of bringing up this topic in a number of threads, I think it
>> should be discussed on its own. Now, please don't make any personal
>> attacks. Instead, it would be nice if Pirates from Spain that know the
>> situation would fill the rest of us in about what they think is being done
>> wrongly at PPES, how they see PP-CAT's and PP-GAL's positions towards this,
>> if they would be okay with forming an umbrella organization that represents
>> the various Spanish PPs towards PPI (and possibly PPEU) or not, and stuff
>> like that.
>>
>> I would in particular be interested in knowing whether members of PP-CAT
>> and PP-GAL would be interested in joining PPES as well if PPES gets their
>> problems under control (as long as Catalonia and Galicia are not
>> independent, anyways).
>>
>> -J
>>
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-- 
Miguel García Lafuente - Rock Neurotiko
Vocal de la Junta Directiva Nacional del Partido Pirata.
Coordinador de Jóvenes Piratas en Madrid.

"Libertad en lugar de miedo." - "Información libre, sociedad libre."
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