[pp.int.general] Pirate Party Situation in Spain

[Kenneth Peiruza]

With what census? Am I still a member? i haven't received
 any notification, neither David Arcos....

Salut!Rock Neurotiko <miguelglafuente at gmail.com> escribió:(respect another e-mail yours, we have http://ideas.partidopirata.es/ where we vote everywhere, and the votes who needs quorum, we use a telematic system by e-mail)

2012/3/4 Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>


On 04/03/12 18:06, Rock Neurotiko wrote:
Sorry, I hadn't present myself.

I'm Rock, member of de directive of PP-Es.

2012/3/4 Victor Fernandez <gevictorfr at gmail.com>
Hi! my name is Victor, I'm 20 years old and a I'm a member of PPES and PP-GAL.

In this moment almost all the member of PP-Gal are part of PPES, furthermore we want a confederation and the most active members of PP-GAL are working actively in the PPES mail lists.

Problems off PPES?

-The work environment is pretty bad without out .Gal and .Cat members. I think this is the worst problem and we can't help to fix it. Now some people are moderating the mail list but that don't fix the problem.
It's true, we have some problematic people who insults others, we are trying to fix it, and for right now it's working.

What Riaño does in PP-ES's lists, he does it here as well. 0% Evidences, 100% insults. What a nice guy to had twice in your board... 
Are you in the lists to confirm it, or someone told it to you? 


 

- A few persons of PPES don't trust on PP-CAT people so is hard to work together.

That's not true, the true it's that some people don't trust in some people of PP-Cat, like upside.
 

-PPES statutes but now I think they really are trying to reform it.

Yes, we are constantly working on it. 

-People don't really want to talk. I've proposed to PPES directive create a main list where a few people of PP-GAL, PPES and PP-CAT could work together, share information quickly etc. but until now they don't want because off PP-CAT. They prefer that one person (me) talk to one person of the PPES directive or sent a email to PPES mail list, the one of the bad work environment so... not easily talk, work and trust.

Understand us, if some one attack constantly us in the PPI list, it's obviously that he/she won't want to talk with us.



If you're talking about me, please, define attack, because I've just said what's going on in PP-ES, Wikileaks is an attack? are you sure you're a pirate?

I hadn't talk about you, don't  feel alluded if you wouldn't.

Had you attack our servers to have the information to talk about PP-Es? Cause if don't, some one told it to you, cause you're not in the lists.
You don't have any idea what are we trying to do, we are trying to improve the party, but it's not instantaneous, we'll have it asap, please, stop the attacks to the party until we complete the improves, that just obstruct our work.



BTW, I'm happy to talk regularly with at least 3 of your bureau members, feel free to ask for my phone/fb/gtalk and let's chat a bit, you know, Ghandi was a dangerous terrorist for the British media for almost 30 years.
If you want, add me to Gtalk to talk when both be free, I'm sure that you will undestand me better in Spain (I don't talk very fine in English :P) 

I'm not Ghandi, but neither Charles Manson.


Regards,

Kenneth

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-- 
Miguel García Lafuente - Rock Neurotiko
Vocal de la Junta Directiva Nacional del Partido Pirata.
Coordinador de Jóvenes Piratas en Madrid.

"Libertad en lugar de miedo." - "Información libre, sociedad libre."

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