[pp.int.general] Pirate Party Situation in Spain

[Mozart]

Don't you even think of starting, Emerson.

On 06/03/2012, at 5:41 AM, Jay Emerson wrote:

> Seems every Pirate Party has an Andrew Norton :-/
>
> On 03/04/2012 11:03 AM, Daniel Riaño wrote:
>>
>> Hi Justus,
>>
>> It is already months since the Spanish PP has being passing in  
>> silence the insults, personal attacks, innuendos and all kind of  
>> defamatory rhetoric we have been reading in the PPI lists coming  
>> from the side of one single member of the PP CAT. Unlike this  
>> individual, we, at the Spanish PP don't think the PPI lists are the  
>> right venue to present our local pleas, to wash our laundry, to  
>> comment about our internal issues or the personal issues with  
>> pirates all over Spain, even less to do it unfairly with total  
>> disregard for actual facts.
>>
>> Now, since this individual has got some predicament in the lists,  
>> mainly due to his obsessed insistence on pushing his agenda through  
>> this list at all cost (even at the cost of sidelining the real  
>> issues of the PPI at the forecomign General Assembly in Praha)  
>> maybe at this point some members of the PPI are truly interested to  
>> know what's really going on among pirates in Spain (and not just "  
>> what they think is being done wrongly at PPES"). If that's the  
>> case, I think the directory board of Spain's PP (I am speaking for  
>> my self here) will no doubt find the time to present a fair account  
>> of its position (but please mind that we have our papers to finish  
>> and jobs to keep and things like that) and we will be ready to  
>> answer all pertinent questions from all you pirates.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 2012/3/4 Justus Römeth <roemeth at gmail.com>
>> Moin/hola/ahoi
>>
>> Instead of bringing up this topic in a number of threads, I think  
>> it should be discussed on its own. Now, please don't make any  
>> personal attacks. Instead, it would be nice if Pirates from Spain  
>> that know the situation would fill the rest of us in about what  
>> they think is being done wrongly at PPES, how they see PP-CAT's and  
>> PP-GAL's positions towards this, if they would be okay with forming  
>> an umbrella organization that represents the various Spanish PPs  
>> towards PPI (and possibly PPEU) or not, and stuff like that.
>>
>> I would in particular be interested in knowing whether members of  
>> PP-CAT and PP-GAL would be interested in joining PPES as well if  
>> PPES gets their problems under control (as long as Catalonia and  
>> Galicia are not independent, anyways).
>>
>> -J
>>
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