[pp.int.general] Pirate Party Situation in Spain

[Jay Emerson]

Seems every Pirate Party has an Andrew Norton :-/

On 03/04/2012 11:03 AM, Daniel Riaño wrote:
> Hi Justus,
>
> It is already months since the Spanish PP has being passing in silence 
> the insults, personal attacks, innuendos and all kind of defamatory 
> rhetoric we have been reading in the PPI lists coming from the side of 
> one single member of the PP CAT. Unlike this individual, we, at the 
> Spanish PP don't think the PPI lists are the right venue to present 
> our local pleas, to wash our laundry, to comment about our internal 
> issues or the personal issues with pirates all over Spain, even less 
> to do it unfairly with total disregard for actual facts.
>
> Now, since this individual has got some predicament in the lists, 
> mainly due to his obsessed insistence on pushing his agenda through 
> this list at all cost (even at the cost of sidelining the real issues 
> of the PPI at the forecomign General Assembly in Praha) maybe at this 
> point some members of the PPI are truly interested to know what's 
> really going on among pirates in Spain (and not just " what they think 
> is being done wrongly at PPES"). If that's the case, I think the 
> directory board of Spain's PP (I am speaking for my self here) will no 
> doubt find the time to present a fair account of its position (but 
> please mind that we have our papers to finish and jobs to keep and 
> things like that) and we will be ready to answer all pertinent 
> questions from all you pirates.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
> 2012/3/4 Justus Römeth <roemeth at gmail.com <mailto:roemeth at gmail.com>>
>
>     Moin/hola/ahoi
>
>     Instead of bringing up this topic in a number of threads, I think
>     it should be discussed on its own. Now, please don't make any
>     personal attacks. Instead, it would be nice if Pirates from Spain
>     that know the situation would fill the rest of us in about what
>     they think is being done wrongly at PPES, how they see PP-CAT's
>     and PP-GAL's positions towards this, if they would be okay with
>     forming an umbrella organization that represents the various
>     Spanish PPs towards PPI (and possibly PPEU) or not, and stuff like
>     that.
>
>     I would in particular be interested in knowing whether members of
>     PP-CAT and PP-GAL would be interested in joining PPES as well if
>     PPES gets their problems under control (as long as Catalonia and
>     Galicia are not independent, anyways).
>
>     -J
>
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