[pp.int.general] PPEU at the PPI GA

[Jerry Weyer]

Dear Heiko,

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Heiko Schramm <heiko.schramm11 at gmx.de>wrote:

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> Hallo Pirates,****
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> I’m a European – and I feel like a European.****
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> You can read this in my homepage
> http://www.global-working.de/index_en.html****
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> If you build a European Pirate Party I want to be a member of this party.*
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> I would like to pay a membership fee for this party beyond my membership
> fee for the Pirate Party Germany.****
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> If we can’t have a party, let’s start with a Mailinglist or an european
> wiki or an european homepage.****
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> Let’s start to create a statute and a first program for a European Pirate
> Party.
>

Discussions on this topic already begun:
http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu Please use that list for
PP-Europe related topics.


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> ** In ****Germany**** there is no delegation system in the whole Pirate
> Party.
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> Why can’t we build an european party without delegation through national
> Pirate Parties?****
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> My proposal: Every European, who wants to join in, can do this. ****
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> And from the moment someone is a member, he or she can vote on all
> europaen affairs, beyond a membership in a national Pirate Party.
>

Propose a concept where this could work and I'm sure people will discuss
it. :)


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> Is there anyone interested in an European Pirate Party organized from the
> base?****
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> If we are 20 people we can start. Call on me.  ****
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>  ****
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> Best regards ****
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> Heiko Schramm****
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> Pirate Party ****Germany********
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> http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:Heiko_Schramm
>

Kind regards,

Jerry


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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> *Von:* pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net [mailto:
> pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net] *Im Auftrag von *Justus
> Römeth
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 4. März 2012 22:39
> *An:* pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> *Betreff:* [pp.int.general] PPEU at the PPI GA****
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> One of the steady criticism towards PPI has been that it is very
> Eurocentric. This manifests in all GAs having been held in Europe so far,
> which in turn made physical participation for many non-European delegates
> very expensive, and the subsequent established remote participation has
> been lacking, especially when it came to being elected.****
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> Within Europe, on the other hand, there have been calls for more
> cooperation between the European pirate parties. We are discussing now the
> possibility to form a PPEU (or PPEurope, incorporating European non-EU
> parties). Since most European parties will have delegates at the PPI GA in
> Prague, there have been suggestions of using that time to start talking
> about PPEU as well. So far, some time on Sunday has been set aside for
> that, with panels with other topics for non-European (or non-interested)
> delegates (there have been panels on different topics during the 2011 GA in
> Friedrichshafen as well). However, concerns have been raised that such a
> panel could be disappointing for non-European PPs, as it could take
> valuable time from discussing topics related to PPI.****
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> Since I don't think it makes a lot sense for non-Europeans to read the
> PPEU ML I just wanted to raise awareness to this point and ask for your
> opinion. I hope that the value of having a European PP is also clear to
> non-European pirates, as it likely will lighten the burden of PPI regarding
> intra-European issues, and could in turn help set up PPI GAs outside of
> Europe (by experimenting with remote delegations and decentralized GAs by
> themselves, for example).****
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> However, before we have a big discussion about this in Prague it would
> probably be good to talk about this panel beforehand, especially concerning
> non-European delegates.****
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> What are the opinions from Africa,, Asia the Americas and Oceania on this?
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> -J****
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