[pp.int.general] Research Survey.

[Marko Mitrovic]

This is how I imagine ancient Greek philosophers worked. They sat in
circles and for hours and days debated pointless things instead of taking
some action. We are true direct democrats :)

And I can't make paypal donation, it's not functional in my country :P

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat> wrote:

>  Dear Andrew,
>
> Ok, I understand we must be efficient, right, but this whole thread is
> POINTLESS.
>
> There's loads of FLOSS tools to create polls/surveys and it just takes 3
> minutes to install them, or just pay 30$ to someone else and you'll get it
> as a service.
>
> Creating the poll/survey itself is time consuming in any platform, free or
> privative.
>
> This whole chatting wasted a lot more time than creating the survey
> itself. Let's take 5 minutes / participant's email * 18, that's at least 90
> minutes, + readers.
>
> I charge my hours from 40 to 80 €, so, we wasted more than 100 €, 4 times
> what it costs to pay to get this thing done.
>
> Talking about efficiency, we are stupid.
>
> Next one to reply this thread is invited to make a paypal donation of 5€.
> In 2 hours we'll get the cash to pay it.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> Al 08/05/12 09:18, En/na Andrew Norton ha escrit:
>
> On 5/5/2012 11:23 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/a/pirateparty.org.au/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGN0NkNDODVHZHg3T0hKSWFtT1VYbXc6MQ
>
> > I suspect that people will find it impossible to fill in answers there
> > without running a large nonfree Javascript program.
>
> > The Pirate Party doesn't campaign for abolishing nonfree software.
> > But is it good Pirate Party activities to push people into using
> > nonfree software?
>
> A better question we have to ask ourselves is, "what is the aim of the
> Pirate Party?"
>
> Is it to be the political arm for the FSF, as Sinn Fein was for the IRA?
> No.
> Therefore your question is really more of a distraction from our core
> aims. Personally, I don't care if it's 'free' not 'nonfree' so long as
> it enabled me to do the work that needs doing. We could spend time
> making sure we only use 'free software', or we could spend time working
> on our core issues. I think out time is better spent on the latter. If
> there's a readily available 'free' option, that takes little/no extra
> time and effort, then sure, use it if you want, but we have so much to
> do, and so little in the way of resources, that it's a time&effort
> wasting distraction that we can ill-afford.
>
> Sure, Mozart could have spent another 90mins making a pure html version
> for 'free use', but that's 90mins that has been spent to do the same
> job, and thus 90mins that couldn't be spent on something else, like
> ACTA, or any one of a dozen other pressing issues. then the extra time
> to process things after.... It's a luxury we can't afford, even if you can.
>
> And suggesting we take extra time, to satisfy some philosophical
> position that isn't even a pirate position... that just doesn't seem
> logical, does it? More like touting a philosophy for the sake of it really.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> > --
> > Dr Richard Stallman
> > President, Free Software Foundation
> > 51 Franklin St
> > Boston MA 02110
> > USA
> > www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> >   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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