[pp.int.general] Germany Arrests Paul Watson

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at pirata.cat
Wed May 16 03:30:23 CEST 2012


Al 16/05/12 03:01, En/na Mozart ha escrit:
> I was under the impression that the Pirate Ideology was to protect
> civil liberties online and off. This includes unfair trials and
> extradition in my opinion – this is not really an environmental issue,
> but a consideration of whether this is "right". I don't think Travis
> was expecting Pirate Parties to run off and form policy on these sorts
> of things, but individual Pirates may have an interest in this.
>
> Pirates come from all sorts of other movements. Anonymous, Occupy,
> Catalan Separatist, LGBT rights, and I'm sure many former Greens Party
> supporters. To disregard things as being "not Pirate issues" would be
> like telling Richard Stallman that no one is interested in the FSF –
> some Pirates are!
>

Sorry man, if you talk about Catalan Sepatarism thinking in PP-CAT,
you're really wrong. In fact, we have the same amount of separatists as
Catalan society has: 50%, as shown in our member's polls.

In fact, 90% of PP-CAT members are in favor of an Independence
referendum (exactly the same figure as other Catalan population
surveys), whilst only 2% was in favor of including separatism in PP-CAT
topics (so, most PP-CAT members like to keep that topic for
direct/liquid democracy.

Just to make it clear: in Spain it's quite common to have a party in
Catalonia and brother-one in the rest of the state. Even the Spanish
unionists have a separated party in some regions with separatists (PP -
UPN, IU - ICV ). Even PP and PSOE have their local branches in
Catalonia, with some degree of autonomy and even confronting views in
some topics. We aren't separatists, neither a political anomaly.

And back to topic, if the extradition is "irregular", as we defend civil
liberties and fair trials, IMO, we should oppose it. If this is like
some of you say, it's not so different to Assange's extradition case.

Should we defend Assange because he's in Wikileaks and leave any other
injustice ignored? no way.

Regards,

Kenneth Peiruza
(speaking as any other pirate)



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