[pp.int.general] Don't roast our planet

Marko Mitrovic archamond at gmail.com
Thu May 17 00:25:01 CEST 2012


I'm no expert in the field, but I have strong feeling that we as a species
are so overestimating our influence that it is surreal.

Climate change, Earth magnetic focuses shift, sea levels rise and fall and
things like this are nothing new. Those phenonena are occuring for billions
of years and will keep occuring when humanity is long gone. Many factors
behind this we probably can't even comprehend correctly at this stage.

Yes, of course there are many issues that need to be addresed, like
pollution of certain areas, deforestation and hunting of endangered
species. But let's not kid ourselves that we will destroy planet beyond
repair. Asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs made more damage to Earth than
all our weapons could do combined yet life is still flourishing.

We are so insignificant in grand scheme of things and should focus on
problems we can fix and we know for certain that we are causing them. In
big pictures those issues are micro things but could make this planet
better place to live for humans and other species.

That's my amateurish view. In short, I'm all for ecology and taking care of
envrinonent, but I don't buy that we have any notable influence on climate
change and other macro things around our little planet.

Sorry for typos :)
On May 16, 2012 11:45 PM, "Charly Pache" <charly.pache at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is a big difference between '90%+ of scientists' and 'scientists are
> more than 90% certain that' :)
>
> Warming of the climate is unequivocal for me too.
>
> The main critics are the following:
> - ratio increase co2/increase temperature is not linear as assumed in the
> ipcc mathematical model
> - increase of temperature is the cause and not the consequence of co2
> increase (temperature increase >> co2 increase)
> - sun cyclus influence has not been studied enough
> - temperature is increasing on other planets of the solar system as well
>
> Have a nice night ;) Charly
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Jan Lettow <janlettow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Charly Pache <charly.pache at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Sorry, I can't agree with your 90%+ statement, please tell us where does
>> > this figure come from.
>>
>> "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and scientists are more
>> than 90% certain that most of it is caused by increasing
>> concentrations of greenhouse gases produced by human activities [...]"
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
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